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  •  I can appreciate the principal's frustration (4+ / 0-)
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    at being stuffed between a rock and a hard place... until I hear about the reaction of "the parent is too stupid" and the basic "we'll just stuff this down their throats" response.

    Someone who has so little respect for the parents and children they serve should not be a principal. Period.

    The principal's job is to protect the students in his care, however that can be done.

    It would be perfectly appropriate for the principal to meet with the parent and sympathize with the concern and try to work out a way for the exam to be taken in a way that is acceptable for the student and the parent. It is perfectly appropriate to discuss the jeopardy for the school and to let the parent take in that information and then make a decision that is best for her student. If there is no way to work that out, then so be it.

    Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

    by elfling on Sun Apr 21, 2013 at 09:43:48 PM PDT

    •  Remember (3+ / 0-)

      that what you are hearing is anecdotal evidence, and second-hand anecdotal evidence at that.  I am not at all suggesting that this situation didn't go down exactly as described, but it would be hard to confirm that it did.  Hearing from someone who was actually there would be helpful.  I'd like to hear what was actually said in those conversations, as even if that's exactly what they meant, I'm quite sure nobody actually said this parent was "too stupid".  

      If this diary is an accurate description of what happened to this this family, I think it's disgusting.  But, since it is a second-hand anecdote, I'll take it with a grain of salt.  I'll also take with a grain of salt the accusation that these 3 people have "latent racist tendencies" (whatever those are) since I never assumed anything about the race of the student or the administrators and no details were given about this.  It's really tough to jump to so many conclusions here as all we have are relays of conversations...and regarding the actual test, we only know that the student took the test, but don't know if there were threats, explanations, coercions, or what that led to that.

      I guess my point is that this really does sound terrible and abusive and may be completely true, but I don't think we should be prone to jumping to conclusions such as calling people racist or condemning an entire state education board without more evidence than was presented here.  

      Political compass: -8.75 / -4.72

      by Mark Mywurtz on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 04:13:11 AM PDT

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      •  I agree completely, but the diarist's (3+ / 0-)

        suggestion that the testing is the sole fault here is... let's say, extremely shortsighted.

        I would also suggest that if this scenario is actually true, diarist has a duty to report it up the chain to a superintendent and/or board member and possibly elsewhere as well.

        Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

        by elfling on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 07:25:43 AM PDT

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        •  In my experience, the results of the tests (0+ / 0-)

          were never returned soon enough to provide any insight as to how to improve "education" for the students. Any attempt at "remediation" or change in instruction always arrived a year later with no analysis as to what a teacher could or should do to help the students out.

          Knowing that student X needed vocabulary work and student Y needed math skills and that student Z couldn't answer inference questions, really didn't help a classroom teacher at all when there are 30 to 35 other students in class all needing something else, especially when the test was given 6 months ago with a summer break inserted.

          The information was virtually useless in a school with a 25% or great transition rate as well. And test results were often not readily available when a student transferred to a different, school district or a different state.

          While the premise is, supposedly, to "help" the students, the school districts publish the results as a school "report card" and show ranking or comparison with other one has to wonder why all the testing at all when nothing is really done with the results except to determine which schools are "failing"?

          Character is what you are in the dark. Emilio Lizardo in Buckaroo Bonzai

          by Temmoku on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 07:00:47 AM PDT

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