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  •  Mind over matter (3+ / 0-)
    Race is a social construction.
    It sure is strange that some social constructions are more likely to come down with prostate cancer or glaucoma than other social constructions.
    •  I'm not sure (8+ / 0-)

      if you are implying that it is genetic. There is very little evidence that genetic differences between race groups are responsible for the health disparities that are prevalent in the US (and some other countries as well), with a very few specific exceptions such as sickle cell. Otherwise the evidence strongly points to effects of poverty and discrimination (i.e., social constructions) as the reasons for poorer health among African Americans as well as lower income people.

    •  great joke...I think, if not there (10+ / 0-)

      is much much literature and science out there you need to consult. race is a biological fiction. what you are talking about are lose groups of people who share some traits because of in-marriage and geography. human beings are 99 percent or so the same. we have not existed long enough as a species to have sub-races, etc.

      for example, and this is a common example when folks want to talk about this race and genetics business, there are certain groups of "blacks" from tropic environments who are predisposed to Sickle Cell Anemia. Italian Jews share a similar disease profile. Are they the same "race" by your logic? Or is there something else going?

    •  Biologically, there is no such thing as race (7+ / 0-)

      OTOH, certain groups of people * are * pre-disposed to certain illnesses and diseases.

      But that's genetic and not racial in origin.

      •  Maybe not... (3+ / 0-)

        In one of my bird identification books, there's a description: "rufous-sided  towhee, western race." In this case, biology recognizes "race" as a color variation. Two 'kinds' of towhees, each colored slightly differently, same species.

        Technically, race may be a valid scientific biological descriptor for color variations among the same species; "race" as a "social construct" may more accurately refer to a term that has been hijacked by bigots in order to infer that some races are nearly another species in their differences, thus "sub-human."

        More truth-twisting by European expansionists to fit the facts to their preferred narrative.

        Ironically, there is more genetic variation among sub-Saharan African peoples than in all variations of so-called "whites"/Caucasians in the world. Should be, I suppose, what with Africa being the cradle of the human race.

        Right Wing Reader Beware-Science!

        By the measure of genes though, humans are amazingly uniform. Humans are genetically less diverse than chimps, and both chimps and humans are much less diverse than a common species of fruit fly. Given our species' long history of racial conflict, our genetic uniformity may come as a surprise. Not too long ago people in polite company would debate whether different human races really all belonged to one species. Our DNA tells us that our genetic differences don't even come close to matching the variety found within a single, apparently monotonous fruit fly species.

        'Race' though, is a horribly sloppy term. Geneticists prefer to speak about populations, not out of political correctness but because race is extremely imprecise. We've all filled out some form or another asking whether we are Black, White, Hispanic, or 'none of the above.' It's obvious that this is much less informative than knowing whether someone's ancestry is African, Australian Aborigine, European, or East Asian.

        You meet them halfway with love, peace and persuasion, and expect them to rise for the occasion ~ Van Morrison

        by paz3 on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 11:15:32 AM PDT

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        •  Everyone's ancestry is apparently "African" (4+ / 0-)

          beyond that, things are much more clouded.

          Here's a cut and paste job with more:

          Race doesn't matter.

          In fact, it doesn't even exist in humans.

          While that may sound like the idealistic decree of a minister or rabbi, it's actually the conclusion of an evolutionary and population biologist at Washington University.

          Alan R. Templeton, Ph.D., professor of biology in Arts and Sciences, has analyzed DNA from global human populations that reveal the patterns of human evolution over the past one million years. He shows that while there is plenty of genetic variation in humans, most of the variation is individual variation. While between-population variation exists, it is either too small, which is a quantitative variation, or it is not the right type of qualitative variation -- it does not mark historical sublineages of humanity.

          Using the latest molecular biology techniques, Templeton has analyzed millions of genetic sequences found in three distinct types of human DNA and concludes that, in the scientific sense, there is no such thing as race.

          more at this link

          I suspect that the birds you mention equally dispute amongst themselves that they are of different races.  At least the ones from the more progressive states . .. .

        •  I think the (0+ / 0-)

          term "race" needs to  be changed to "variety."

    •  race does not equal genotype. (4+ / 0-)
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