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  •  I really don't think the guy was anti semitic (3+ / 0-)
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    gffish, Jane Lew, Lujane

    I work with a guy who is so dumb he used to always use that term whenever a client would try to get a better price.
    He felt it was a compliment to the Jews business prowess. He has many Jewish friends so who knows so I don't think it was prejudice just the way he was raised.
    Years ago I had an accountant who actually sent a client a letter and because his name was Goldberg he called him a cheap Jew. when I saw what he did I got the guy fired. Not for being anti Semitic but for being an idiot.

    •  "the Jews business prowess"?? (10+ / 0-)

      Yes, you know, because we, "the Jews" has an amazing ability to conduct business. All of us. We really do control The Banks, and Hollywood, because "the Jews" are all so brilliant business people.

      Really? I'm supposed to take this as a compliment?

      Should anyone from Japan, China, Korea etc. feel complimented if someone off-handedly mentions that "the Asians" ruined the grade curve in their class since "the Asians" are so, so very smart?

      Should black men feel complimented when someone states that "the Blacks" are hung like a horse or are good dancers?

      And you really think that you're helping your case by saying that your accountant calling someone a "cheap Jew" is "stupid" but "not anti-Semitic"??

      Look, your handle is "Joel" so perhaps you're Jewish yourself, and I've interacted with you over the years via comments/diaries so I know you're not a troll, but you really might want to think about what you just said.

      •  Actually, you may have a point here. (5+ / 0-)
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        JeffW, ssgbryan, Lujane, ER Doc, SilentBrook

        "Anti-semitism" suggests that someone has hatred towards Jewish people (or, depending on your technical definition of the term, anyone of Semitic descent, which would also include Muslims). He doesn't display "hatred" here, but he's still revoltingly ignorant.

        "Idiot" is, indeed, the more descriptive term here--because not only did he use the term, he followed up with a joking "apology" a moment later that made it even worse.

        Anyway, title changed for clarity, so kudos to you to that extent.

    •  It's a bit of both really (8+ / 0-)

      The guy's an idiot for using the expression in the first place. He's also an idiot for seeing it as an acceptable turn of phrase.

      At the same time, bigotry does not need to be fueled by burning hatred on the part of the person expressing it. It can be manifested as a lack of sensitivity as well.

    •  I think you're being dumb. Seriously. (4+ / 0-)
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      Lujane, Brainwrap, Mortifyd, SilentBrook

      It may be the way someone was raised, but it is prejudice...and it is anti-Semitic. By definition. It is not meant to convey respect for the Jewish people.

      Bigotry is usually learned in the home. Saying it's how one was raised? That's just a bad cliche. Great. So, your father taught you to think that way about Jews. It's still contemptible.

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      by FischFry on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 08:54:10 AM PDT

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    •  Look, if the way he was raised (6+ / 0-)

      involved believing that Jews are all shrewd and canny businessmen, then whether or not he or the people who raised him disliked Jews for it, it's still prejudice and it's still bigotry.

      I will grant you that it is a considerably less harmful form of prejudice than believing that Jews are all filthy christ-killing commies who drink the blood of gentile babies, but it still isn't good.

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