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  •  I respond with another fact (0+ / 0-)

    that shines more light on the subject and you reply by repeating yourself.

    I'll put this forth again: if you're saying that the media contributing to Democrats means the media is not conservative, then where is all of the liberal legislative victories in the last 1/4 century?

    And also, please address the diarists links which explains in detail mainstream media content.

    liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

    by RockyMtnLib on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 08:15:17 AM PDT

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    •  facts is facts is facts is facts (0+ / 0-)

      The media industry consistently, year after year after year, give most of their campaign money to Democrats.

      Period.

      You can wave your arms, you can pee your pants, you can jump up and down, you can blither and bluther, but that simple fact remains true. Reality is a stubborn thing.

      •  Provide a source for those numbers please. (0+ / 0-)

        And your excuse that it's simply selling product, and nothing else is needed to explain it, is bullshit.

        When you said "I am happy to repeat" - that's all you seem capable of right now.

        Adios.

        liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

        by RockyMtnLib on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 08:28:52 AM PDT

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        •  They come from Opensecrets.org, which tracks all (0+ / 0-)

          campaign contributions using data from the FEC.

          I strongly strongly strongly encourage you to go there and poke around for a few hours, looking up the amount of corporate contributions from various industries that have gone to Dems over time.  WARNING: the idea that most of have here, that "the corporations give their money to Repugs every year", is just as wrong and demonstrably untrue. So you probably won't like that either.  (shrug)

          But here are the latest figures from opensecrets.org for the 2012 elections:

          Company   total contributions  % to Dems  % to Repugs
          Comcast Corp    $4,386,506    61%           38%   
          Time Warner    $2,687,988    77%            13%   
          News Corp    $1,576,635    72%          29%

          http://www.opensecrets.org/...

          See that last one there? Newscorp?  The owners of Fox News?  That's right--the owners of FOX NEWS, in the 2012 elecftion, gave 72% of their contributions to DEMOCRATS.

          Let that sink in for a second . . . . . . . Then let's look at the Top Five Recipients for Newscorp money in the 2012 election:

          Top Candidate Recipients, 2011-2012
          Barack Obama (D)     $150,150
          Howard L. Berman (D-CA)     $53,800
          Ben Cardin (D-MD)     $35,375
          Mitt Romney (R)     $29,950
          Henry A. Waxman (D-CA)     $21,500
          HEAVENS TO MERGATROID ---who is that I see at the top?  And what do all those "D's" after the recipient's names mean . . .?

          That's right, folks, Newscorp, the Rupert Murdoch cesspool of conservatism, gave more money to Barack Obama than any other candidate--five times as much as it gave to Mitt Romney---and four of the five tyop recipients of Newscorp money were Democrats.

          Let that sink in for a few seconds . . . . . . .

          The simple fact---"the media" as an industry, gives most of its money to Dems, in every election cycle, year after year after year. Period.

          And your excuse that it's simply selling product, and nothing else is needed to explain it, is bullshit
          Nonsense.  The media are corporations just like any other corporation---they sell product to make money. Their only task in life is to generate profits for their stockholders.  The media are no different.
          •  Newscorps complete list of recipients in 2011-2012 (0+ / 0-)

            This is just too funny:

            Obama, Barack (D)     Pres    $150,150
            Berman, Howard L (D-CA)     House    $53,800
            Cardin, Ben (D-MD)     Senate    $35,375
            Romney, Mitt (R)     Pres    $29,950
            Waxman, Henry A (D-CA)     House    $21,500
            Whitehouse, Sheldon (D-RI)     Senate    $18,208
            Feinstein, Dianne (D-CA)     Senate    $16,125
            Corker, Bob (R-TN)     Senate    $14,500
            Klobuchar, Amy (D-MN)     Senate    $14,375
            Menendez, Robert (D-NJ)     Senate    $12,500
            Walden, Greg (R-OR)     House    $10,500
            Gillibrand, Kirsten (D-NY)     Senate    $10,250
            Cantor, Eric (R-VA)     House    $10,000
            Upton, Fred (R-MI)     House    $10,000
            McCaskill, Claire (D-MO)     Senate    $9,499
            Smith, Lamar (R-TX)     House    $9,000
            Brown, Scott (R-MA)     Senate    $8,500
            Heller, Dean (R-NV)     Senate    $8,500
            Warren, Elizabeth (D-MA)     Senate    $7,500
            Hatch, Orrin G (R-UT)     Senate    $7,000
            McIntyre, Mike (D-NC)     House    $7,000
            Rubio, Marco (R-FL)     Senate    $7,000
            Schiff, Adam (D-CA)     House    $7,000
            Bono Mack, Mary (R-CA)     House    $6,500
            Tester, Jon (D-MT)     Senate    $6,500
            Kaine, Tim (D-VA)     Senate    $6,333
            Allen, George (R-VA)     Senate    $6,000
            Bilbray, Brian P (R-CA)     House    $6,000
            Dold, Robert (R-IL)     House    $6,000
            Gibson, Chris (R-NY)     House    $6,000
            McMahon, Linda (R-CT)     Senate    $6,000
            Nelson, Bill (D-FL)     Senate    $6,000
            Conyers, John Jr (D-MI)     House    $5,500
            Cicilline, David (D-RI)     House    $5,250
            Clyburn, James E (D-SC)     House    $5,000
            Franken, Al (D-MN)     Senate    $5,000
            Goodlatte, Bob (R-VA)     House    $5,000
            Markey, Edward J (D-MA)     House    $5,000
            McCarthy, Kevin (R-CA)     House    $5,000
            Murphy, Patrick (D-FL)     House    $5,000
            Pelosi, Nancy (D-CA)     House    $5,000
            Watt, Melvin L (D-NC)     House    $5,000
            Heitkamp, Heidi (D-ND)     Senate    $4,999
            Brown, Sherrod (D-OH)     Senate    $4,500
            Dingell, John D (D-MI)     House    $4,500
            Hoyer, Steny H (D-MD)     House    $4,500
            Kerrey, Bob (D-NE)     Senate    $4,500
            Wicker, Roger (R-MS)     Senate    $4,500
            Baldwin, Tammy (D-WI)     House    $4,199
            Becerra, Xavier (D-CA)     House    $4,000
            Cardenas, Tony (D-CA)     House    $4,000
            Cleaver, Emanuel (D-MO)     House    $4,000
            Crowley, Joseph (D-NY)     House    $4,000
            Gardner, Cory (R-CO)     House    $4,000
            Guthrie, Brett (R-KY)     House    $4,000
            Pompeo, Mike (R-KS)     House    $4,000
            Sullivan, John (R-OK)     House    $4,000
            Carmona, Richard (D-AZ)     Senate    $3,500
            Hayworth, Nan (R-NY)     House    $3,500
            Kennedy, Joe III (D-MA)     House    $3,500
            Mourdock, Richard E (R-IN)     Senate    $3,500
            Maffei, Dan (D-NY)     House    $3,250
            Bachmann, Michele (R-MN)     House    $3,000
            Benishek, Dan (R-MI)     House    $3,000
            Biggert, Judy (R-IL)     House    $3,000
            Blackburn, Marsha (R-TN)     House    $3,000
            Blumenthal, Richard (D-CT)     Senate    $3,000
            Gonzalez, Charlie A (D-TX)     House    $3,000
            Graham, Lindsey (R-SC)     Senate    $3,000
            Kinzinger, Adam (R-IL)     House    $3,000
            Runyan, Jon (R-NJ)     House    $3,000
            Schultz, Debbie Wasserman (D-FL)     House    $3,000
            Paul, Ron (R-TX)     House    $2,504
            Amodei, Mark (R-NV)     House    $2,500
            Barrow, John (D-GA)     House    $2,500
            Boehner, John (R-OH)     House    $2,500
            Casey, Bob (D-PA)     Senate    $2,500
            Cherny, Andrei (D-AZ)     House    $2,500
            Chu, Judy (D-CA)     House    $2,500
            Cravaack, Chip (R-MN)     House    $2,500
            Larson, John B (D-CT)     House    $2,500
            Pawlenty, Tim (R)     Pres    $2,500
            Payne, Donald M (D-NJ)     House    $2,500
            Perry, Rick (R)     Pres    $2,500
            Ryan, Paul (R-WI)     House    $2,500
            Bruning, Jon (R-NE)     Senate    $2,250
            Thompson, Tommy G (R-WI)     Senate    $2,250
            Adams, Sandy (R-FL)     House    $2,000
            Berg, Rick (R-ND)     House    $2,000
            Chabot, Steve (R-OH)     House    $2,000
            Coble, Howard (R-NC)     House    $2,000
            Deutch, Ted (D-FL)     House    $2,000
            Gingrey, Phil (R-GA)     House    $2,000
            Gowdy, Trey (R-SC)     House    $2,000
            Landrieu, Mary L (D-LA)     Senate    $2,000
            Manchin, Joe (D-WV)     Senate    $2,000
            McConnell, Mitch (R-KY)     Senate    $2,000
            Sanchez, Linda (D-CA)     House    $2,000
            Schock, Aaron (R-IL)     House    $2,000
            Shimkus, John M (R-IL)     House    $2,000
            So Barack Obama was number one, and got more than the next four recipients combined--and five times as much as Mitt Rmoney.

            Of the total list of Newscorp recipients, 50 were Republicans and 50 were Democrats.

          •  What Lenny's figures prove... (0+ / 0-)

            is not that the media is liberal, but that the Democrats largely aren't. The mainstream of the Dem party is serving the same crony capitalist thugs that the GOP are.
            That's why we need to evict the blue dogs and replace them with real progressives, whether they be Dem, Green, or other.

            •  amen to that . . . (0+ / 0-)

              The reason conservative ideas and frames dominate politics is because both parties are conservative.

              But you are incorrect about one thing---I am not arguing that the media is liberal.  I am arguing that they are utterly amoral and sell us whatever we want to buy.  If we want to hear liberal views, they'll give them to us; if we want to hear conservative views, they'll give them to us--hell if we want to hear NAZI views, they'll give them to us. They don't give a rat's ass, as long as we watch the corn flake commercials they sell ad time for.

    •  I am happy to repeat: (0+ / 0-)
      And also, please address the diarists links which explains in detail mainstream media content.
      The media sell a product. And they sell the product they think most people want to buy. It's no different than selling soap or corn flakes. With the exception of the paid propaganda network (Fox), the media sell conservatism because it sells. If they thought a liberal-left viewpoint would sell as well, the media would be selling us DFH viewpoints and be just as happy (like MSNBC does after it made the business decision to become the opposite of Fox News)). Most of them don't care which ideology they sell, as long as people buy it.

      Me, I think the whole "the media is against us boo hoo hoo" thing is just a convenient excuse for losing caused by incompetent organizing and inability to find, stick to, and communicate a message that people agree with. When the Dems fight AGAINST positions that a majority of people want, then "the media" is not the Dem's problem--the Dems themselves are the problem. Blaming it on "the media hates us boo hoo hoo" may be a convenient excuse, but it doesn't solve the problem.

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