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  •  I thought more or less the same thing (0+ / 0-)

    Surrounded by information about this absolutely surreal "manhunt" I thought - "Yes, this is a bad event and yes the cops/FBi should be chasing the guy" but - like this?  Were they really dangerous to the extent of a military lockdown and search canvas pulling some clearly innocent families out of houses at gun point shouting at them?" and I thought - haven't there been other really bad mass murderers and really bad criminals sought, found and apprehended without looking like a really scary dystopian film?   And what about all of the crimes that aren't quite as bad but pretty bad?  What if this was the common reaction of law enforcement.

    Of course my answer was what it is - this is something different.  Something wrong.  Something bad.   Something that redefined the landscape in my eyes - a lot.

    FYI - the bluedog thing is about my dog ... I'm a liberal left winger and proud of it.

    by bluedogsd on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 09:50:08 PM PDT

    •  He had bombs and grenades with him when last seen (3+ / 0-)
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      jan4insight, JeffW, begone

      while shooting at cops, locking down a city to find him was not a bad thing to do.

      •  Guns trained on clear innocents forced out of home (0+ / 0-)

        Won't go there and say it's OK.

        Have you seen the first person video of the agents in full body armor with trained assault rifles shouting at a scrawny, blonde young teen who clearly has no possible resemblance to the suspect - the part where the gun is trained on him and the agent screams "Get your hands on your head" as they force him and his family out of their home?

        https://www.youtube.com/...

        If you actually watch it I am guessing you will be freaked out.  If you're not freaked out, all I have to say is - Sorry - this is NOT the way to deal with this.   The clear message here is "everyone is a suspect" - and how do you argue against that with this video evidence?

        I will say that I have been OK with being a "suspect" every time I get on a plane.   In that world I have been OK with proving my innocence.  

        If I was this family in that video I wouldn't feel my life was made safer by this violation of my home and I would most likely need therapy - not caused by the bomber or his proximity to my house - but as a result of how I was 'perp walked' (because that is what you see here) for no reason that I would ever be explained.

        Are you OK with this?  Are you OK with your son being the blonde kid in the video?   Do you think that moment won't mess with his life for the rest of it?  Do you think that the value proposition that somehow this act made the country safer so it was OK for the law enforcement to act like this is a valid one?  I don't, won't and never will.

        Watch the video.  Tell me you are OK with that.

        FYI - the bluedog thing is about my dog ... I'm a liberal left winger and proud of it.

        by bluedogsd on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 12:15:35 AM PDT

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    •  Quite honestly, (1+ / 0-)
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      the reaction to this offended my senses. All of them. I do not care how bad the incident is (was), the government still has to abide by the Constitution. It scares me to see that so many are willing to give up freedoms for safety.

    •  He had bombs and grenades with him when last seen (2+ / 0-)
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      JeffW, jan4insight

      while shooting at many officers and wounding one critically, a lockdown was necessary, believe me i was 5 miles from it.

    •  This is what you get in the 21st century (0+ / 0-)

      what else did you expect? It was like a Brazilian BOPE operation. You'll get use to it. Such incidents will only become more common.

      A Catholic, Jew, Muslim and Buddhist walk into Al Aqsa Mosque. Buddhist immediately exclaims: "excuse me I appear to be in the wrong joke."

      by Salo on Tue Apr 23, 2013 at 10:35:00 PM PDT

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