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  •  PA-16 looks packed to me (1+ / 0-)
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    Stephen Wolf

    You could easily reduce the black percentage a little and in return make PA-17 a majority-minority ability to elect district.

    •  I could (0+ / 0-)

      except PA-17 would still elect Bob Brady even if that happened. Remember, before 2011 Bob Brady's district was a majority-minority district, and he was still reelected easily.

      I also figure that, since Philadelphia has an approximately equal number of whites and blacks, that it would make sense for there to be one white and one black representative from Philly.

      (-8.38, -4.72), CT-02 (home), ME-01 (college) "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." -Spock

      by ProudNewEnglander on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 12:41:50 PM PDT

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      •  That's not how the VRA works (1+ / 0-)
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        Bob Brady won because he was the chosen candidate of black voters. Which is fine. TN-09 doesn't stop being a black-majority VRA district just because it elects Steve Cohen.

        The purpose of the VRA is to ensure that cohesive blocs of minority voters have the power to elect candidates of their choice, not simple to elect minority congressmen.

    •  I actually agree with this (0+ / 0-)

      No district in the country is 70% black. When I drew it it was 60% and I thought that was pushing it. While racial polarization is t high enough for you to need to maximize the 2nd district's black share, I do think you ought to bump it up without hacking apart the city. I basically split it along Broad street for simplicity, but you could probably get it above 35 or so.

      I encountered a similar problem in Maryland where it's very easy to draw a swingy 5th district but only by packing the 4th to 70% black.

    •  I decided to see (0+ / 0-)

      whether it was possible to draw two black-majority districts in SEPA. As it turns out, it's not possible, but I got pretty close (one district was 50.0% AA, and the other was 47.1% AA). The 47.1% black district is also 18% Hispanic and only 26% white, so it would probably elect an African-American.

      And even with this, you can still draw two more districts in the Philly suburbs that would vote for Democrats.

      I think this is an idea I might take further.

      (-8.38, -4.72), CT-02 (home), ME-01 (college) "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one." -Spock

      by ProudNewEnglander on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 01:36:55 PM PDT

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    •  COI vs racial packing (0+ / 0-)

      We encourage grouping together communities of interest into congressional districts (ie. urban vs rural, rich vs poor, factory towns vs college towns), but you have to be careful not to go too fare when it comes to race (ie. white Philly vs black Philly).  Racial packing is not allowed, for good reason, but it can get you in trouble if you are just drawing COI's in good faith.

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