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  •  Or in other words, voters are f-ing idiots... (6+ / 0-)
    Republicans love power but hate governance. It's what makes them so difficult to deal with.
    One would think that a candidate's ideological opposition to an organization's very existence, would preclude him from becoming a managing member of said organization. Not so according to America's dipshit self loathing voters.

    "We see things not as they are, but as we are." - John Milton

    by Jasonhouse on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 04:40:08 AM PDT

    •  Well, there is that idea (5+ / 0-)

      The the smaller the government, the better.  A lot of people swallow that without contemplating the implications.

      I can't understand why someone would want less (and less effective) government in a wolrd that is increasingly complex and unpredictable.  Freedom and self-reliance I suppose...

      •  Lack of or reduction in inspections (5+ / 0-)

        industrial accidents like West, TX
        contaminated cortisone shots
        cantaloupes (Colorado), meat (many places), lettuce (California) etc. that sicken people and cause many to die
        polluted water and air
        failing pipelines

        How do people imagine these important governmental services that protect the public will be provided?

        •  They don't (3+ / 0-)

          Most people simply accept that the good things they have, like roads, water, safe food, buildings that don't fall down or leak, are just part of the landscape. They don't think about thousands of boring government bureaucrats doing their boring jobs ensuring that those important government services are provided.

          I doubt many of them even think of those things as government services. All those things you mention are where government interacts with business (on behalf of the public, of course) rather than interacts with the public. In so far as any of those things are known by individual voters, it's generally in the context of their employment, when government inspections are an intrusion and interruption, and government regulations are burdens to be borne.

          Consider how many people think marriage is a religious ceremony, rather than a state license recognizing a relationship, similar to a business license or a corporate charter.

          "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

          by Orinoco on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 10:45:54 AM PDT

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    •  You aren't paying attention to their campaigns (3+ / 0-)

      Most of American voters don't follow politics on a regular basis. They know what's in the paper or on TV, but only get into the specifics of particular candidates during campaigns for office.

      Tea Party candidates say, "Send me to Washington to set things right!" For someone who has an idea that Washington is dysfunctional place that spends all their tax dollars on NPR, Planned Parenthood provided abortions and foreign aid, that's a pretty convincing call to action. Now, you may think those opinions make the typical tea party voter a fucking dipshit self loathing idiot. But, given that the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy spends billions per year to create those opinions, that's on a par with thinking the typical consumer of brand name products is also all those things.

      Tea Party candidates might tell small groups of Teahadists their true feelings about destroying the government during primary campaigns, but once they get on the ballot, they are all, "Jobs! Progress! Freedom!" and the like. They lie through their teeth, and WE know it, but the typical voter does not.    

      "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

      by Orinoco on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 10:30:46 AM PDT

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