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  •  Of course, it is critical that gun control (9+ / 0-)

    legislation sails on the wind of popular support. Until we get the stunning amount of special interest cash out of our legislature, we the people have that snowball's chance in hell situation to contend with. The NRA and the gun lobby pack quite a punch with Citizens United help.

    •  The GOP's position is indefensible (6+ / 0-)

      on background checks, and they know it. So I agree that firing up popular opinion in favor of background---which is already there, but hasn't coalesced yet---is the best route forward.

      In addition, every background check opponent should be asked again and again, in every forum, why they oppose such a non-controversial measure. Put them on the defensive, make them explain, and their opposition will collapse like a house of cards.

      •  They will all "explain" their vote (3+ / 0-)

        the same way - that universal background checks will lead to a federal gun registry which will allow the feds to know where all the guns are so they can be confiscated.

        No, it makes no sense and has no basis in reality, but that is and will continue to be their argument.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 10:27:12 AM PDT

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        •  Yes! Just the way that cars are confiscated (2+ / 0-)
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          I agree it makes no sense.  The fifth amendment protects property of all kinds, including legally-obtained (and responsibly registered) firearms from seizure.

          •  The drug war has successfully subsumed (1+ / 0-)
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            many of the protections of property rights enumerated or even implied in the constitution.  Asset forfeiture is now the law of the land, and legally registered firearms wouldn't be protected from seizure any more than your legally registered car or your legally registered boat or your legally deeded house.

            "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

            by SueDe on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 12:36:08 PM PDT

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    •  The Northeast seems like the wrong part of the... (4+ / 0-)
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      country for the NRA to make a stand, especially defending a one-term senator without a whole lotta influence in a presidential election year.

      In a region where they're pitted against both the Newtown parents group and Bloomberg's money... the NRA will lose.

      I think Ayotte just made a grave political miscalculation.

      "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone" - John Maynard Keynes

      by markthshark on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 10:06:59 AM PDT

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    •  Also, how do you explain this? (2+ / 0-)
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      So Much For The 90 Percent: Poll Shows Gun Control Legislation’s Failure Greeted With Relief By Many

      http://www.mediaite.com/...

      If legislation sails on the wind of popular support, it might be important to have an accurate handle on how much public support there is, and so far, I think one side of this debate has been sailing on badly skewed polls. Which precisely explains what happened in the Senate.

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