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  •  This doesn't do a lot to explain why they (1+ / 0-)
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    wanted to blow up innocent Americans who were peacefully watching a marathon race.  The fact that our country admitted them as refugees makes it all the more outrageous.

    •  Near the beginning I wanted to be clear that there (8+ / 0-)

      is nothing here about blaming or excusing.  The next paragraph begins, "Let's remember."  

      Everyone wants to know the same thing you do.  What did they do and why did they do it?  We don't even know what we did.  A lot of us don't.  How could we know about others when we don't know ourselves?  

      Graham said the other day that the FBI screwed up.  It dropped the ball when the Russian FSB gave them a tip.  Is he that naive?  Is he pretending he doesn't know that Russia had its own agenda for the Chechens?  Their word wasn't trustworthy since 2002.  We were supposed to believe them in 2011?  He's either playing a dangerous game or he's dangerously stupid.  

      There is no existence without doubt.

      by Mark Lippman on Wed Apr 24, 2013 at 09:41:46 PM PDT

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    •  there are hateful, murderous psycopaths in every (2+ / 0-)
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      culture, ethnicity, nationality, and sub-group. It is usually impossible to predict who is going to snap, and do something horrible. Are you suggesting we don't let anyone in to this country? Because that is the only way we could 100% prevent letting someone bad in.
      Of course, this doesn't touch on the fact that there are U.S. citizens who are murderous psycopaths, as well.

      I don't think the author was trying to explain anything about the two brothers' motivations, but he was trying to give us some context for our questions (and thank you for that, BTW, Mark Lippman).

      •  Where do you get this idea? (0+ / 0-)
        Are you suggesting we don't let anyone in to this country?
        No, I am actually quite angry that these two murderers have likely fucked it up for many legitimate asylum seekers in the future, particularly Chechens.
        •  my question, and I think it's a difficult (1+ / 0-)
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          but important one (certainly not as black & white as the right wing is suggesting): how do we predict who is going to be murderous?

          I share your anger/grief that the 2 brothers have likely f***ed up immigration for many innocent people.

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