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  •  I didn't blow it (3+ / 0-)
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    Fire bad tree pretty, poco, Brecht

    I spent five minutes on a lost cause.  We didn't argue, nobody accused anybody of anything, and nobody got mad (except maybe the husband when I challenged his false accusation of the president).  At the end of the civil exchange of profoundly different opinions, I left.  I didn't change anybody's mind, but I felt it was time well spent.  After leaving, I completed my turf, knocked every door I had been assigned, and was able to plant some seeds on behalf of my candidate in a couple of threes I met a few blocks over.  It was a successful afternoon canvassing.

    Three days later, still disturbed by the blatant fanaticism I had observed, I decided to write it up for dailykos, a website I am supremely confident neither of these people read.

    You think I told the woman I thought she was a fanatic?  Don't know where you got that idea...

    When the union's inspiration /Through the workers' blood shall run /There can be no power greater /Anywhere beneath the sun /Solidarity Forever!

    by litho on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 04:02:13 PM PDT

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    •  You indeed did blow it (1+ / 0-)
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      JNEREBEL

      You were there on behalf of Markey, and your exchange of "profoundly different opinions" included an attempt to push your own perspective, one that stems from an agenda that is profoundly in conflict with the views of the candidate. This was neither the time nor the place for you to take even baby steps to push that personal agenda.

      You would do well to recognize that you did not serve the campaign well in this regard, and you should try to demonstrate more self-control in the future.

      •  Thanks for the advice. (3+ / 0-)
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        Fire bad tree pretty, poco, Brecht

        I fairly represented my candidate.  I did not commit suicide, and I did not deny who I am, but at the same time I made clear to the homeowners they had more in common with the candidate than they believed.

        When my candidate wins election, as I am sure he will, I intend to pressure him to open up towards a more expansive view of Israeli history, one that confers upon Israel's aggressive actions towards the Palestinians their proper role in understanding both the origins and reproduction of the ongoing conflict.

        That is, as a campaign volunteer I am working hard to get him elected, and to establish a foundation to enlighten him once he gets into office.

        I know you want to blame the Palestinians for everything and the Israelis for nothing, and I know you are profoundly disappointed that an American Jew would even think of criticizing Israel on fundamental matters.  But you don't own me.  And you certainly don't control my thoughts nor my actions.

        Thanks for the advice.  Markey will win.

        When the union's inspiration /Through the workers' blood shall run /There can be no power greater /Anywhere beneath the sun /Solidarity Forever!

        by litho on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 05:05:13 PM PDT

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        •  I too hope and believe Markey will win (0+ / 0-)

          And when that happens, you will have every right to make known to your new Senator your views and attitudes about Israel, Zionism, Zionists, and Jewish supporters of Israel.  That is a cherished American  right.

          And I am absolutely confident that, like your other excellent Senator, Markey will not for a second consider adopting those hideous views and attitudes as his own.

          Oh and by the way, you and I have had enough communications over the years so that you know full well that this statement of yours is not true.

          I know you want to blame the Palestinians for everything and the Israelis for nothing, and I know you are profoundly disappointed that an American Jew would even think of criticizing Israel on fundamental matters.  
          So that makes you . . . a liar.

          Here's a little advice -- lying ain't the best way to persuade anyone toward your point of view.

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