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  •  He was kind of obnoxious (6+ / 0-)

    to Martha and the Syro-Phoenician woman.  

    However, all four Gospels agree that the first, and principal, witness to the Resurrection was to Mary Magdalene, which really is amazing, considering how low-status women were at the time.

    He also healed and empowered a large number of other women (Peter's mother, Mary of Bethany, Jairus' daughter (and risked ritual impurity to do so), the woman taken in adultery, the woman who bled, and many, many others).

    Also, a lot of Biblical scholars agree that a second witness to the Resurrection was a woman - Cleopas' wife.

    •  Some read it that way. (11+ / 0-)
      He was kind of obnoxious to Martha and the Syro-Phoenician woman.
      He spoke truth to Martha, and sometimes that's hard to hear.  That conversation is one of the most valuable parts of scripture for me -- subtle hints don't always penetrate my self-justifying skull.  :-)

      As for the Syro-Phoenician woman, I have always felt his comments were delivered tongue in cheek and were more for the benefit of his apostles and other followers who occasionally rebuked Jesus for treating Gentiles with equal compassion.

      One thing is for sure: Jesus had great insight into human nature and must have possessed quite a sense of humor.

      "War is not the answer, for only love can conquer hate." ~ Al Cleveland & Marvin Gaye (1970)

      by JBL55 on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 04:56:31 AM PDT

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    •  That conversation with Martha.... (3+ / 0-)
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      ... has long made me think that Jesus and Martha may have been married to each other.  There is a sort of bluntness in their conversation that is only parallelled in some of Jesus's conversations with his mother. (By contrast, Martha's sister Mary -- and Mary Magdalene -- always come across more as devoted fans than "partners" of Jesus).

      •  My speculation (only speculation - zero evidence) (4+ / 0-)

        is that Jesus married young like other Jewish men, but lost his wife and child in her childbirth. Perhaps such a personal loss is behind his tenderness toward children and his regard for women.



        Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

        by Wee Mama on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 05:37:47 AM PDT

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        •  you're not alone- (3+ / 0-)

          from the religiousinstitute.org:

          As you have no doubt read, Dr. Karen King, a professor of early Christianity at Harvard Divinity School, released findings last week regarding a newly found original document that offers evidence suggesting Jesus was married. It was front page news and lit up social media, with some claiming that it provides support for women priests and a married Roman Catholic clergy.  

          Veracity of the fragment aside, this wasn’t news to those of us who think about sexuality and the church.  More than forty years ago, William E. Phipps wrote a book entitled “The Sexuality of Jesus,” in which he postulated that Jesus would have been betrothed by his parents during his teen years as was the custom for Jewish men based on the mores of the time. With an average age of marriage of 14, Phipps argued, Jesus was in all probability married. By the time we meet Jesus again at age thirty, when the Gospel story introduces him as an adult, he was likely a widower. (Women on average died in the first century at the age of 25, most often in childbirth.)

          "...i also also want a legally binding apology." -George Rockwell

          by thankgodforairamerica on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 07:17:22 AM PDT

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          •  Maybe Lazarus, Martha and Mary.... (2+ / 0-)
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            ... were the family of his hypothetical died-young wife?  Jesus seems to have had an extraordinarily intimate relationship with these people.

          •  One other possibility (3+ / 0-)

            is that Joseph died before he could arrange a marriage for Jesus. Mary wouldn't have been in a position to make such arrangements and  Jesus then devoted himself to caring for his widowed mother. It is clear in the later stories of the Bible that Jesus has been in charge of his mother's care for quite some time.

            However, it is fun seeing people freak out at the idea that Jesus had sex. When you see them denying the possibility that Jesus was ever married, you can tell their rage is coming from the idea that sex is dirty, even within marriage, so there is no way Jesus could have been married and having sex.

            "That being said, I do agree I am going to hell. But for other reasons. Mostly boring tax stuff ' Amy Pohler

            by Annie B on Thu Apr 25, 2013 at 11:34:59 AM PDT

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