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  •  I was asking a question. (3+ / 0-)
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    Catte Nappe, misslegalbeagle, elfling

    It was both a practical question and a question that I think basically illustrates how stupid DOMA and this ruling are.

    Let's just say that my best friend and I are supporting the same candidate and my friend doesn't have the money to donate but I do...  Would we be allowed to donate together from the same bank account?  AND if for some reason we started sleeping together how would that in any rational world change the terms of the donation?

    •  That's exactly what I thought you meant. :) nt (1+ / 0-)
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    •  This is about more than having (0+ / 0-)

      a like-minded friend or even sleeping together.
      This was a couple married under state law. So unless you and your friend happened to be married, there is no parallel.

      •  Well, actually I disagree. (1+ / 0-)
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        elfling

        What the FEC has said in effect is that people can't donate to their candidates based on their sexual orientation and because they are married to someone of the same sex.  It is certainly an infringement of freedom of speech as defined by Citizens United - and freedom of association - and discriminatory - especially if there is no prohibition against me and a friend of the same sex getting together to make a joint donation.

        Furthermore, it seems to undercut the whole objective of Campaign Finance reporting laws which were created to regulate and to track contributions to candidates.   If only one member of a married couple can take credit for a donation and the other is a participant in earning those funds, then the whole point of campaign finance laws has been upended.  

        The ruling and DOMA as I said before are nonsense both from a practical standpoint and by any measure of our democratic political freedom as outlined in the Constitution.

        My father would go farther here and say that all campaign finance laws are a total waste of time and to a degree I agree with him with the exception that reporting donations and having that transparency is really important.

        •  No, not exactly. (0+ / 0-)

          Unless I'm missing something, it says that one form of payment (splitting payments from an individual checking account) is available only to legally married heterosexual couples.  Legally married homosexual couples are free to donate to the candidates of their choice, but must use individual checks or (I presume) checks drawn on a joint checking account.

          This problem could easily be solved with no change in the law simply by refusing to split any checks that are not drawn on a joint account.  That's why, whatever may be wrong about the FEC rule, freedom of speech is not the problem.

          LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

          by dinotrac on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 08:40:12 PM PDT

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