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  •  but again (1+ / 0-)
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    given the legitimate grievances that so many irish catholics had, why did so relative few resort to terrorism? why them?

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 11:46:23 AM PDT

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    •  Now that's a good question. (0+ / 0-)

      Along the lines of why the bolsheviks, etc.

      My guess is that most people prefer not to get evil with one another.

      I prefer to think of that as the norm, and, instead, focus on why so many people fell in line with the Nazis, the KKK, etc.

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      by dinotrac on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 12:27:44 PM PDT

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      •  and that's my point (1+ / 0-)
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        the norm, even for those living lives similar to those who become violent, is not to become violent. so why do these specific individuals become the anomaly? there is no amswer.

        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

        by Laurence Lewis on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 12:33:19 PM PDT

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        •  I think that's one level too simplistic. (0+ / 0-)

          Even Martin Luther King admitted that he could condone violence if non-violent methods failed and failed again.

          I suspect there is something to being part of a group that believes itself to be wronged.  Get wronged enough, feel helpless enough, feel angry enough, and you want to do something about it. Sometimes it's a few, sometimes it's not so few.

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          by dinotrac on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 12:46:23 PM PDT

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    •  Their friends and neighbors (2+ / 0-)

      They came from relatively few places.  They were steeped in the stories, myths, legends of grievance.  Even for most of these it's a pastime.  Probably most have heard the stories so often and heard the empty threats so often they don't even take themselves seriously.  But a few will and a few who don't know any better assume the others are serious when they're just crying in their beer.  People who need a place to put their grievance connect with a place that has a grievance.  It's like putting the individually harmless elements of a bomb together.

      •  but it isn't (0+ / 0-)

        put the parts of a bomb together and you have a bomb. put these parts of a life together, and the vast vast majority of the time you still won't have a bomber.

        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

        by Laurence Lewis on Sun Apr 28, 2013 at 12:35:10 PM PDT

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        •  It's more complicated (0+ / 0-)

          because we don't know how to identify all the individual components and triggers.  But think of gang violence.  In many cities it's sporadic and in the background but in Chicago it's almost become the norm in some neighborhoods.  So it could be that you go from the least mentally stable and the most easily influenced to the average guy depending on how deeply the neighborhood is infested with the culture of violence.   I don't think it's unexplainable.  Obviously, you can't explain why it happens in every individual.  

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