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  •  We live in Utah, and the anti-vaccine, (8+ / 0-)

    "it's a government conspiracy" sensibility is strong here. It's not just about being anti-vaccine as an opinion, some parents here will literally, upon learning that you have chosen to vaccinate your children:

    - Bring it up every time they see you in an accusatory tone
    - Leave your social circle/stop being willing to associate with you
    - Keep their kids away from your kids
    - Spread the word in the community that you're a "vaccinator"

    The people like this (and yes, we were formally acquainted with several families like this, and no longer are for these reasons) are part of the right-wing problem in this country.

    So far as they're concerned, it's all socialism and tyranny and a conspiracy to do X, Y, or Z (it changes to the flavor of the week depending on the emails circulating in their circles at the moment) to children and "a free people."

    Interestingly, all but one of the families that we've known that were part of the anti-vaccine crowd were also highly consumerist, anti-environmentalist, and deeply involved in MLM businesses. Anecdotal rather than statistical, but interesting nonetheless.

    -9.63, 0.00
    "Liberty" is deaf, dumb, and useless without life itself.

    by nobody at all on Fri Apr 26, 2013 at 09:10:43 PM PDT

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    •  The Insane Hatred That Used To Fuel Racism?.... (2+ / 0-)
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      phonegery, ER Doc

      I think it's still there, and it's still absurdly self righteous.  

      How about the insane right to lifers - you know your local newspapers crazy-cat-lady who will stay on the computer for 72 hours straight complaining about Planned Parenthood?

      Or the people who go into the equivalent of meth fueled rage over raw milk?  Those people are nuts.

      There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby

      by bernardpliers on Fri Apr 26, 2013 at 09:40:35 PM PDT

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    •  That's one part of the anti-vaxxer crowd... (4+ / 0-)

         The other part is hard-core left-wing crunchy granola pro-environment folks who are definitely part of us on most issues, but are opposed to vaccines because they're not "natural", they're "artificial chemicals", they're a product of the "Big Pharma" conspiracy, and, yes, "because they cause autism". Anti-science notions affect all sides of the political sphere.
           My step-daughter-in-law is into some of this, although she's actually a fundie nut, too. They're immunizing the two grandsons, but they're doing it one antigen at a time, every six weeks or so. Somehow, this is supposed to be "safer", because it doesn't "overwhelm their immune system." I'm appalled that the pediatrician is going along with this, but I guess the idea is that it's better than nothing. I have no idea where the schedule they're using comes from. They refuse to acknowledge that they are conducting their own uncontrolled experiment on their kids, since there is no scientific testing and minimal anecdotal experience to back this plan.

      -7.25, -6.26

      We are men of action; lies do not become us.

      by ER Doc on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 06:58:41 AM PDT

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