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  •  "We must respond" because we are mighty and (4+ / 0-)
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    protectspice, Nattiq, gulfgal98, corvo

    have the luxury of picking and choosing what to "respond to."

    Jingoism is extreme patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy. In practice, it is a country's advocation of the use of threats or actual force against other countries in order to safeguard what it perceives as its national interests.
    •  We must respond because we can't make (1+ / 0-)
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      auapplemac

      false threats. That assumes the use of nerve gas is confirmed.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Fri Apr 26, 2013 at 11:14:01 PM PDT

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      •  If we can make promises & not keep them, why (9+ / 0-)

        can't we make threats & not keep them?

        America's greatest political dynasty...the Kaan

        by catilinus on Fri Apr 26, 2013 at 11:57:16 PM PDT

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        •  great comment! (n/t) (2+ / 0-)
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          corvo, catilinus

          "Growing up is for those who don't have the guts not to. Grow wise, grow loving, grow compassionate, but why grow up?" - Fiddlegirl

          by gulfgal98 on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 07:11:30 AM PDT

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        •  If you are North Korea you can make (0+ / 0-)

          false threats but if you are the US you can't. If you do, other countries will stop taking us seriously. I would have preferred that the POTUS not draw lines in the sand and I wish he hadn't drawn this line in the sand, but he did. If it is verified that the Syrians did cross the line we have to respond. I think the response can be limited, but we have to show Syria, and the rest of the world, that if we draw a line, you can't cross it with impunity.

          "let's talk about that"

          by VClib on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 07:44:24 AM PDT

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          •  Ah, I see (4+ / 0-)
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            corvo, native, protectspice, Egalitare

            We need to expend millions of dollars worth of ordnance and kill a bunch of people just to "prove we're serious".

            If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

            by Major Kong on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 08:35:39 AM PDT

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            •  We are serious (0+ / 0-)

              and it's important that other countries believe we are serious and that we don't make false threats. The United States cannot make false threats, we can't.

              "let's talk about that"

              by VClib on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 09:43:55 AM PDT

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              •  Beeause we're a manly country (2+ / 0-)
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                and if we say we're going to kick some ass, we have to kick some ass, whether it's a good idea or not.

                You may think that. I couldn't possibly comment.-- Francis Urqhart

                by Johnny Q on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 11:21:20 AM PDT

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                •  JQ - the key is to not make the threat in (0+ / 0-)

                  first place. The POTUS could have said many things other than the use of chemical weapons was a "red line" that could not be crossed. I wish he had said something else. However, we cannot make false threats. I think the Obama administration has many options available to construct a response, including providing more sophisticated weapons to select rebel groups, but we have to do something.

                  "let's talk about that"

                  by VClib on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 11:32:13 AM PDT

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                  •  So we have to prove (0+ / 0-)

                    that our mouths don't write checks our asses can't cash, so we have no choice to get into a fucking war?

                    I really don't see why we have to die and kill because some idiot shot his mouth off.

                    You may think that. I couldn't possibly comment.-- Francis Urqhart

                    by Johnny Q on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 11:37:45 AM PDT

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                    •  JQ - we don't (0+ / 0-)

                      unless the person making the statement in the President, Sec of Defense or Sec of State. When they make a statement it can't be a false threat.

                      "let's talk about that"

                      by VClib on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 01:29:13 PM PDT

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                      •  Hence the occasional Will To Stupidity (0+ / 0-)

                        Is the expense of blood and treasure really more important than some idiot's bruised ego?  El Presidente talked tough out of turn and now people have to die?

                        You may think that. I couldn't possibly comment.-- Francis Urqhart

                        by Johnny Q on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 02:43:53 PM PDT

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                      •  Dude you need to come off this (1+ / 0-)
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                        Ray Pensador

                        "we can't make false threats shit'. Who the fuck do we think we are. SO WHAT if we don't follow. SO WHAT. We're not GOD. Hell even GOD changes his mind.

                        America's been making threats all over the place for a long time.

      •  sn't that why LBJ escalated in Vietnam (2+ / 0-)
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        even though he knew it was a bad idea?

        How did that work out, again?

        Killing people just so people know you're willing to kill people is fucking stupid and I had hoped that Obama would be smarter than that.

        You may think that. I couldn't possibly comment.-- Francis Urqhart

        by Johnny Q on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 11:19:20 AM PDT

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