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  •  But if they let in the gays, next they'll have to (6+ / 0-)

    let in them godless atheists too!  Then everythang'll go to Hell!  

    It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. G. K. Chesterton

    by redbaron on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 09:17:52 AM PDT

    •  as an Eagle, I am in favor of Godless Atheists (6+ / 0-)

      and I am a religious person.

      Maybe I missed something along the way, I did get my Eagle at a Court of Honor and "the whole nine yards" of the time (1968) but I don't get recall some quasi-religious Eagle induction ceremony.

      And though I have the Catholic religious medal for scouts (given by Richard Cardinal Cushing in Boston's Holy Cross Cathedral in 1967)  I don't recall this statement of religious principle.

      Get rid of the baloney and get back to going camping and hiking.

      "I want us to live up to her expectations. I want our democracy to be as good as she (Christina Taylor-Greene) imagined it." President Obama

      by guavaboy on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 10:31:57 AM PDT

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      •  I may have not made it to Eagle but I'm with you (0+ / 0-)

        I was a Scout for only about four years--I joined when I was 12 1/2 and left not long after I turned 16. I didn't know I was gay at the time; nobody even talked about such things back then. But more to the point I'm quite certain that more than half of the members of my troop would, if you'd pressed them on it, admitted that they really didn't believe in any sort of Supreme Being. It was lip-service to most of them; it was something you said because it was expected of you and (for all but I few) very little other than that. Nobody cared; really nobody did. On campouts or during summer camp, nobody cared if you attended one of the religious services (I came from an area that was rather heavily Jewish) or stayed in your bunk/lean-to/cabin/tent when they were being held. Nobody. And that's precisely the way it should be.

    •  If I had had boys (1+ / 0-)
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      I never would have let them go into scouting primarily because of the ban on atheists, considering I am one. So, yeah, it's lip service to gays, but only until they turn 18, and only if they still buy into the God Scam. Not nearly enough.

      Luckily, I had girls, and, although neither of them showed much interest in scouting, they could have, since the Girl Scouts doesn't traffic in the Only Godly Heteros Need Apply bullshit.

      "Maybe: it's a vicious little word that could slay me"--Sara Bareilles

      by ChurchofBruce on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 03:57:58 PM PDT

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      •  I also had daughters (1+ / 0-)
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        and in each case, (there were two) I had the thought that I was off the hook about being a future Boy Scout leader. I was relieved.

        I made sure that each of them learned all the skills and we did a lot of camping. my younger one through-hiked the Appalachian Trail in 2010 ( and no, she did not see hide not hair of Governor whatshisname..). I think by the time they were in high school they were Eagle qualified.

        I truly agree that the religious requirement also has to go.

        "I want us to live up to her expectations. I want our democracy to be as good as she (Christina Taylor-Greene) imagined it." President Obama

        by guavaboy on Sat Apr 27, 2013 at 07:47:26 PM PDT

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