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  •  If I'm understanding you correctly, (1+ / 0-)
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    what you're saying is why can't we let the worker decide whether they want to, 1/ be paid time-and-a-half for overtime worked, or 2/ get comp time for overtime worked.

    I think that would be a great way to do it. And I think that any employer who doesn't want to give their workers the choice is, basically, just hoping that they can find a way to screw their workers over and get some labor for free.

    I know I'm not a Libertarian and, for the life of me, I don't know why Lenny Flank is attacking you over your post (unless I'm totally missing your point). You two must have some history on here that I'm unaware of.

    •  Something along those lines. (0+ / 0-)

      It may be that there really is no way to do that without exposing workers to more abuse, but...we have abusive employers now.  Hell, forced overtime is pretty abusive.

      As to Lenny, well, Lenny is Lenny.  Not to worry.

      LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

      by dinotrac on Mon May 06, 2013 at 02:05:28 AM PDT

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    •  A very neat idea. The problem is that (1+ / 0-)
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      employers will "encourage" workers to choose the second, and then make it hard for them to take leave-time.

      In practical terms, the first option is not available thanks to the predatory nature of America's rentier classes.

      "Violence never requires translation, but it often causes deafness." - Bareesh the Hutt.

      by Australian2 on Mon May 06, 2013 at 04:13:02 AM PDT

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      •  One way to deal with that is to require payment (0+ / 0-)

        for hours that haven't been used by the end of the year, the quarter, something.

        More specifically, hours that amount to time and a half.

        I still think it's too bad that we must choose to screw workers in order to (try to ) keep employers from screwing workers.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Mon May 06, 2013 at 11:58:02 AM PDT

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