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  •  I might actually argue "Lite" lol but I get it (1+ / 0-)
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    Joieau

    The concept of another being able to forgive your sins? SO not Jewish. lol  You are responsible for yourself and how well or poorly you manage to keep the Law - which is for the benefit of humans, not G-d - to help us aspire to be less shitty people, because people suck.  Not because of "original sin" - another non-Jewish concept - but because we are tribal chimpanzees in shoes, tend to be violent and take the easiest route to comfort at the expense of others not of our tribe.

    I think we are capable of not killing ourselves - provided the slide away from science is halted.  We need to start sending humans out of our atmosphere at least - and out of our solar system definitely if we are to survive as a species. We're not doing so hot here at home - and there will be a massive die off as a result of our poor stewardship.  I don't believe in an interventionist deity that will fix it for us.  I think Sagan was right - there is a point sentient species must cross - to be able to live long enough to get off the rock and continue, or go extinct.  We're right at that point and it could go either way.

    And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

    by Mortifyd on Wed May 01, 2013 at 03:28:12 PM PDT

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    •  Sigh. I think that if we weren't alone (1+ / 0-)
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      in our conceivably accessible corner of the universe, we'd probably know that by now. Unless all other possibly "intelligent" forms of life haven't gotten as far as us yet. In which case, God have mercy on them when we do discover them. If we can't exploit them for profit, we'll extinct-ify them. If we foul our own nest to extinction, we've certainly no business exporting it to anyplace else where life might have a chance in hell.

      You are right that our stewardship of this planet has been so lousy that we may yet succeed in making most forms of life on this planet extinct. Lord knows we're proud of threatening each other and ourselves with that very thing. Sometimes I think it's just a diversion from all the pollution profiteering being done.

      None of us lives forever. The profit motive is bigger than any single one of us. I find that very scary. Because it's so easy to distract from... §;o)

      •  if there are others in our neighbourhood (1+ / 0-)
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        I feel sorry for them - we are a violent species and will be feared or destroyed.  I think we have the right to try to continue our existence - not at the cost of extermination of other sentients - but we know how that will go, I agree completely - if we can't exploit them we'll kill them.  Hell, look what we do to the other intelligent mammals (great apes, cetaceans) on our home planet.  We should be confined to other rocks with nothing else on them.

        Chimps in shoes who make tools of death as toys - aren't we just the friendliest species in the galaxy. sigh  We're the sharpest tools in our shed, but total dicks.  And we have developed so quickly in the last couple centuries that we have forgotten (those of us in the "first world" at any rate) that we are not immune to our own destructive power.  It might very well be good for us to have to work hard again to survive on the moon or Mars for a while before venturing out of our solar system, knock us down a couple of pegs.

        At least in those places we can't hurt anyone else.

        And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

        by Mortifyd on Wed May 01, 2013 at 08:51:34 PM PDT

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