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  •  I'm sure this news will please the fan base (4+ / 0-)
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    but I'm U6. You know, that unemployment category that went up. So I'm not reassured.

    "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is the first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk. Every state is totalitarian at heart; there are no ends to the cruelty it will go to to protect itself." -- Ian McDonald

    by Geenius at Wrok on Fri May 03, 2013 at 06:26:50 AM PDT

    •  Fan base? (10+ / 0-)

      Those that want a healthier economy, lower unemployment numbers and more people working?

      That fan base?

    •  Nice Swipe at Obama Supporters. (9+ / 0-)

      Some of you just can't comment on anything without bringing him or his supporters into it.

      ODS is real.

      I miss Speaker Pelosi :^(

      by howarddream on Fri May 03, 2013 at 07:15:33 AM PDT

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      •  I wasn't taking a swipe at Obama supporters. (1+ / 0-)
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        I was taking a swipe at Obama fans.

        Supporters recognize that the recipients of their support may sometimes deserve criticism. Fans reject that notion and band together to attack the critics. Much as we see happening in reaction to my comment.

        You have a good day, now.

        "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is the first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk. Every state is totalitarian at heart; there are no ends to the cruelty it will go to to protect itself." -- Ian McDonald

        by Geenius at Wrok on Fri May 03, 2013 at 07:19:40 AM PDT

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        •  Don't bullshit us. (8+ / 0-)

          It's pretty clear that Obama supporters, and lots of people who don't support him, see a lot to be liked in the report.  That's why the market leaps a percent.

          What you wanted to do is smear everyone who was pleased as a "fan",  and having provoked a response, play the victim.

          "We're now in one of those periods when the reality of intense pressure on the middle class diverges from long-held assumptions of how the American bargain should work" --James Fallows

          by Inland on Fri May 03, 2013 at 07:57:10 AM PDT

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        •  Good distinction (0+ / 0-)

          I think you nailed the difference between the two.  I've been an Obama supporter since the get-go (since the '04 convention in fact) but the fan-hood element ebbs and flows, and as of late it's been sinking.

          "And once again, the forces of niceness and goodness have triumphed over the forces of evil and rottenness." --Maxwell Smart

          by emobile on Fri May 03, 2013 at 08:11:25 AM PDT

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        •  as one who frequents sports sites, I can tell (5+ / 0-)

          You that fans are often quite vociferous in criticizing their favorite teams.  So I'm not sure that "fan" is the appropriate word for what you describe.  Maybe "fanboy" more accurately captures what you mean to convey.

           But you know what I've noticed?  There exist some progressives that have a kneejerk reaction to piss on any good news.  And that is the other side of the coin.  Just as there are those who want to shut down all criticism, there are those that want to shut down acknowledgement of anything good.  "Much as we see happening in your reaction to this diary."

      •  Seriously! Comment on them so there's proof (1+ / 0-)
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        and you can go back to it when people like 'ODS IS MEEEAAAAANN!!!'

        I see what you did there.

        by GoGoGoEverton on Fri May 03, 2013 at 09:13:57 AM PDT

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    •  U6 is going to be the hardest thing to fix. (3+ / 0-)

      It requires either an overabundance of jobs (almost no unemployment a la a 90s style boom) or an overhaul of the American workplace as a whole.

      •  Exactly. (0+ / 0-)

        And neither seems to be on the horizon.

        We're already looking at the creation of an American-style Kurzarbeit in which the working hours get shorter but the benefits get dropped. That's for hourly workers, of course. Salaried workers get to spend 75 hours a week at the office with no OT. Yet another widening economic gap. The only way to reverse it is going to be through legislation, and the executive-financial elite -- well, I won't say it owns the legislatures outright, but it's leasing them on excellent terms.

        "The great lie of democracy, its essential paradox, is that democracy is the first to be sacrificed when its security is at risk. Every state is totalitarian at heart; there are no ends to the cruelty it will go to to protect itself." -- Ian McDonald

        by Geenius at Wrok on Fri May 03, 2013 at 09:02:34 AM PDT

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