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  •  Which is why I'm on the fence (0+ / 0-)

    as to whether the Civil War was worth it. The slaves were freed but only to face a new kind of slavery that their descendants face to this day. We're still divided over race and culture. The south continues to be a net drain on the economy. And over 600,000 died. Perhaps it would have been best to let the south go, let it have its own civil war (which it would have had eventually), clean up its shit on its own timetable and terms, and then beg to rejoin the union 50 years later, after WWI, less angry and resentful that it was.

    And think of all the great things we could have done without its resistance!

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Wed May 01, 2013 at 11:36:44 AM PDT

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    •  I'm not sure the North would escape fissures. (0+ / 0-)

      For some reason, societies always seem to latch onto sizeable minorities within to bully and blame.  Great Britain's bigots take breaks from hating on Muslims by hating on Poles.  Russians dislike Tatars, Georgians, Armenians and Chechens.  Sunni and Shia tear at each other over the Fourth Caliph, barely waiting for Mohammed's flesh to go back to the clay.

      The mother of all refugee crises on the Ohio shore would not be particularly conducive to development, especially if Europe's colonial powers decided to take sides.  

      "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

      by Yamaneko2 on Thu May 02, 2013 at 03:48:42 PM PDT

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    •  Another thought. (0+ / 0-)

      The nadir in race relations (Jim Crow to WWII) was horrible, terrible and rotten.  In the midst of that nadir, African-Americans individually and in groups made sizeable advances.  W. E. B. DuBois, in "The Souls of Black Folk", briefly inventoried the millions of dollars of property accumulated by former slaves in aggregate.  The rise in black literacy from 1865 to 1900 has few parallels in history, even amidst some terrible discouragement from the neighbors.  

      Postponing the start of that boom from 1865 to 1890 would have been terrible for the South and for the rest of the country.  

      "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

      by Yamaneko2 on Thu May 02, 2013 at 04:02:03 PM PDT

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