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  •  So it's okay for people to keep (32+ / 0-)

    dying as long as they voted against anything President Obama supports?

    So next time a young child is killed, the congressman can go to the funeral and explain to the parents, "Don't you see, we just wanted to vote against the black guy. Surely you understand that? Your son did not die in vain"  What asshats...

    First the thing is impossible, then improbable, then unsatisfactorily achieved, then quietly improved, until one day it is actual and uncontroversial. ... It starts off impossible and it ends up done. - Adam Gopnik

    by theKgirls on Wed May 01, 2013 at 08:39:36 AM PDT

    •  Well said. (9+ / 0-)

      "I'm gonna dance between the raindrops"

      by IB JOHN on Wed May 01, 2013 at 08:49:52 AM PDT

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    •  What about the ACA? (0+ / 0-)

      Estimates are that 25 to 40K die annually due to lack of access to insurance and they all support repeal of Obamacare anyway.  What about the failed lives, suicides, domestic abuse and family violence brought on by anti-Obama austerity measures or lieing to get us into wars or destroying the earth as a viable planet to live on?  There is plenty of blood on these threats to civilization and they need to pay a heavy price.

      •  huh? (1+ / 0-)
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        Have you read Obama's proposed budget . . .?
        •  Do you bother to listen to what BO says about it? (0+ / 0-)

          Like yester-f'ing-day at his press conference?  When he said the only way to get anything on the budget resolved so Thug clowns don't try to nuke the economy every other month (and screw the poor and middle class and elderly and sick and, well, everyone but the rich) is a deal?

          That's what his budget is about.  Its what everything budget, spending and taxes has been about since January 2011.

          But its soooo much more satisfying to blame someone who might actually give a shite, rather than the real cause - Thugs- who wouldn't even bother to stop to give you the finger.

          •  ahhhh. I see. so the way to avoid cutting SS is to (1+ / 0-)
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            propose yourself to cut SS. That way the other side won't WANT to cut SS anymore. Or something.

            Gee, it's a good thing I don't play 12-dimensional chess, huh.


            •  A false choice, which seems typical of a certain (0+ / 0-)


              The c-CPi was offered as part of the overall deal he proposed.  It was offered specifically bc Thugs kept saying in media that entitelment 'reform' by which they meant cuts (how else does one consture 'spend less on'?) was the minimun buy-in to avoid their b-monthly f--kjob to the economy and lock in higher revenues as % of GDP (absolutely essential if we hope to spend anything near what progressives want) and it was in preference to other, worse, deeper cuts Thugs want.  Added to that was the belief that long-term obligations (contingent debt iow) must be reduced and the least bad way to do it is smaller cuts to the growth of same now.

              Finally, of course, since c-CPi cuts occur cumulatively and do not become significant until years down the road, this is not 'austerity'.  Austerity is deep cuts in present and next years budget.  c-CPi may be stupid and bad policy and politics, but it is not austerity.  Indeed, bc it seeks to avoid deep cuts now by smaller cuts over time, it is just the opposite.

              There are many grounds to attack the c-CPi proposal, but 'austerity' is not one.  All I am asking is for the argument to be honest and to stop doing Thugs work for them in the guise of 'progressive' argument.  Doesn't seem much to ask to me.

      •  ACA was also a Republican idea. (0+ / 0-)

        You picked a good example. Alan Gruber, architect of Romeycare, said PPACA was "the same bill".

        Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

        by Dogs are fuzzy on Wed May 01, 2013 at 12:59:41 PM PDT

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