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  •  Well, two terrible quarterbacks and then Tebow (3+ / 0-)
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    who was a terrible passer but had the ability to run and pass just well enough, combined with a stepped-up defense, to still be close enough to have some miracle finishes and get into the playoffs.  When Orton went to Kansas City mid-season and they then played Denver late in the year, Orton managed to beat Denver and Tebow.

    I can agree that Tebow isn't a prototypical pro quarterback but he is a winner.  I was reminded the other day that he's won more playoff games over the last two seasons than Payton Manning has.  

    My wife has the Tebow jersey, I have the Manning one.

    •  They got totally luck with Pittsburg... (8+ / 0-)

      That team was decimated because of injuries.  And Denver had a huge lead going into the 4th quarter and blew it.  In OT - one blown coverage and the game was won.  Then the were destroyed by the Patriots.

      'Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost' - Ronald Reagan, Communist

      by RichM on Wed May 01, 2013 at 10:15:40 AM PDT

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      •  I'm surprised that (4+ / 0-)
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        the Eagles didn't sign him.

        They seem to be really good at coming from ahead to lose.

      •  The (now retired) sportswriter Bob Ryan .... (18+ / 0-)

        ..... wrote a column in the Boston Globe several days after the playoff game against New England you reference, Rich ... and below is part of what he got back. The problem is not Tim Tebow ... it is his disciples:

        I didn’t vilify Tim Tebow. All I said was that he looked more like the guy who couldn’t complete a pass in the month of December than the guy who threw some very professional passes against the Steelers.

        I thought it was all quite self-evident and reasonable, given what we had just seen on the Gillette Stadium turf. The opportunity was there to be far more incendiary.

        Tebow fans didn’t quite see it that way. The religiously oriented vitriol that has come my way was amusing. I guess, in some eyes, humor and spirituality can’t mix. Unlike these people, I have encountered some very witty priests, ministers, and rabbis in my time. There was even an objection to my referencing the Almighty as “the Man Upstairs.’’ I never knew that to be sacrilegious.

        It was all summed up in a communication I received from a woman in Boca Raton, Fla., who claims to be a PhD (she didn’t say in what field). I quote it in its entirety: “Exposed? You are the one exposed. Wrath of God. May the Lord of all creation tear you apart.’’

        The complete silliness of all this speaks for itself.

        Speaking of which: Kurt Warner was every bit as religious as Tim Tebow, and would cite the name of Jesus in interviews - but it was at the tail-end of interviews, not in the beginning - and he did not interject it into every single conversation.

        "We should pay attention to that man behind the curtain."

        by Ed Tracey on Wed May 01, 2013 at 11:43:59 AM PDT

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        •  Bob Ryan (3+ / 0-)
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          Best writer in the best sports department on any paper in the country. Wishing the rest of the Globe was as good.


          Peace on Earth was all it said.

          by BobBlueMass on Wed May 01, 2013 at 01:13:11 PM PDT

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        •  Yeah, but at least Kurt Warner could play. (3+ / 0-)
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          Although I did find his frequent Jesus references to be tiresome (just like I found it offensive when Zach Johnson won the Masters a few years ago and suggested that Jesus was walking the course with him.  REALLY???!!!).  

          "The next time I tell you someone from Texas should not be president of the United States, please, pay attention." Molly Ivins

          by janmtairy on Wed May 01, 2013 at 01:25:12 PM PDT

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        •  Kurt Warner (3+ / 0-)
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          Exactly.  Kurt Warner happened to be a very good NFL quarterback, borderline hall of fame even.  He was every bit as Christian as Tim Tebow, but was less showy about it.  In any case, his case didn't fit into the Evangelical persecution complex, which Tebow's does.

          Cordell Stewart, by the way, was another unconventional quarterback who couldn't find a lasting role in the NFL.  Since he wasn't the Christian Coalition poster boy, he didn't turn into this farce of supposed Christian persecution that Tebow has become.

          The idea that being a Christian in the locker room is anything like being openly gay in the locker room just boggles the mind in it's complete lack of awareness at best.  The cruel reality is that probably many of those most vested in this supposed Christian persecution are, those that are the most hostile to an openly gay athlete, particularly in places such as the locker room or the boy scouts, etc.

        •  Bob Ryan gives some awesome smack downs (1+ / 0-)
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    •  And He Has One Less Job (5+ / 0-)

      Than Petyon Manning has right now, too.

      Too Folk For You. - Schmidting in the Punch Bowl - verb - Committing an unexpected and underhanded political act intended to "spoil the party."

      by TooFolkGR on Wed May 01, 2013 at 11:57:33 AM PDT

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