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  •  Oops. MEant to reply to your comment. (1+ / 0-)
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    Statusquomustgo

     * [new] Funny how that did not come up. (0+ / 0-)

    It turns out that the price of domestic goods isn't so high if you factor in the human costs.

    Take back the House in 2014!!!! ( 50-state strategy needed)

    by mungley on Thu May 02, 2013 at 09:39:10 AM PDT

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    •  like they give a shit about the human cost (1+ / 0-)
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      they only care because they got caught and it's embarrassing them...  
      If they cared about the human cost they would
      move these jobs back to the US so the Humans here
      could catch a break.

      "It is horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save the environment." *Ansel Adams* ."Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."*Will Rogers*

      by Statusquomustgo on Thu May 02, 2013 at 09:43:09 AM PDT

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      •  It's all the same thing (1+ / 0-)
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        Caring about embarrassment is "shaming" working.   It is the only way to get an entity that normally only cares about its profit margin to move.

        Disney is all about its brand and image.  Any time you are in that situation you have to avoid situations that can damage it.

        The cost of failing to do so can be career-ending if you are an individual and can and has shattered companies who thought they were invulnerable.

        A company nobody knows about is in a much better position to just be openly evil.    Do you know who AG Processing company is?  They were involved in a major price fixing scandal with all their industry peers a while back.  After spending a decade or so on it, the FBI arrested a few people.  The company barely noticed.

        (they make all those processed corn ingredients that are in everything).

        Sometimes a company almost seems to thrive on being perceived as evil.  Monsanto and most of the music recording industries pursue tactics that would make most superhero arch-villains blush and both have been holding up pretty well in spite of a lot of grass-roots level organization to try to break their strangleholds.

        If you are susceptible to shame for any reason, you care about "human cost".  If you aren't...you don't.  The reason you care may be venal, but it has real world implications.

        •  I don't agree... you can simultaneously (0+ / 0-)

          not care about human cost and care about your reputation.  

          "It is horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save the environment." *Ansel Adams* ."Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."*Will Rogers*

          by Statusquomustgo on Thu May 02, 2013 at 10:47:27 AM PDT

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          •  My first reaction was (1+ / 0-)
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            "isn't that what I was saying?"

            But I guess it wasn't precisely.  I'm saying that a corporation is incapable of caring about human cost, but it will act as if it does care if its reputation is significant to its success.  And that's all the victory you can expect.

            (corporations aren't people.  They're logical constructs designed to do nothing other than generate money for the people who "invested" in them.  By definition they don't care about anything except return on investment)

            •  Actually, corporations are constructs (0+ / 0-)

              of the government, which is supposed to protect us from them.

              all the natural resources, land, water, labor, belong to us.  
              Without regulation and limits, corporations go feral and destroy everything in sight.  It's how they're designed.

              Reagan let them out of their enclosures and now a specter is haunting America.

              Joy shared is doubled. Pain shared is halved. Spider Robinson

              by nolagrl on Sat May 04, 2013 at 09:39:35 AM PDT

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        •  Disney (0+ / 0-)

          isn't moved about "human cost" and they are perceived as evil because they are.

          "You're barking up the wrong tree. There's no cat up there." -Stella Adler via Holland Taylor

          by brook on Fri May 03, 2013 at 08:49:57 PM PDT

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    •  sorry didn't mean to sound snippy at you (2+ / 0-)
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      AnnieR, mungley

      in the previous comment... just venting...   :)

      "It is horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save the environment." *Ansel Adams* ."Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."*Will Rogers*

      by Statusquomustgo on Thu May 02, 2013 at 10:05:06 AM PDT

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      •  I meant the cost to consumers. (1+ / 0-)
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        I was agreeing with you.

        Take back the House in 2014!!!! ( 50-state strategy needed)

        by mungley on Thu May 02, 2013 at 01:52:38 PM PDT

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        •  lol... I iz habing bad day with my mad reading (1+ / 0-)
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          mungley

          comprehension skilz...

          "It is horrifying that we have to fight our own government to save the environment." *Ansel Adams* ."Even if you are on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."*Will Rogers*

          by Statusquomustgo on Thu May 02, 2013 at 05:48:43 PM PDT

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