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  •  Moffitt is responsible for taking away Asheville's (19+ / 0-)

    water system.  Without compensation, no less.

    And we're stuck with the bonds we issued on it.

    He's in the running for *SSHOLE of the year.

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Fri May 03, 2013 at 07:31:26 AM PDT

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    •  "He's in the running for *SSHOLE of the year.".... (9+ / 0-)

      He has a ton of competition in that arena....  We have to deal with Michele "state religion co-sponsor" Presnell and her TP mindset here in Yancey County...

      Presnell = Yancy County's answer to Virginia Foxx.

      “The comfort of the rich depends upon an abundant supply of the poor.” - Voltaire.

      by LamontCranston on Fri May 03, 2013 at 08:18:51 AM PDT

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    •  Can't they sue over that? (6+ / 0-)

      Municipalities are municipal corporations and that's an unconstitutional taking in my book.  Surely there's litigation pending . . .

      •  There will be. The bond issue may be the key (6+ / 0-)

        to preventing the asset from being taken.

        We'll see.

        Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
        I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
        —Spike Milligan

        by polecat on Fri May 03, 2013 at 09:03:46 AM PDT

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      •  might well be a CONTRACTS CLAUSE violation (4+ / 0-)
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        Lujane, TexDem, blue in NC, FarWestGirl

        "No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility"

        if the water system is tied to bonds, and the bonds are now impaired, it's a direct violation,

        http://en.wikipedia.org/...

        i'd say this case is on point.

        the bonds are now much riskier without the asset and
        republicans are all about the sanctity of contract.

      •  Yes...as both replies have said, the bond (1+ / 0-)
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        Pluto

        situation makes these seizures a bit murky.

        On the other hand, municipalities in our state have virtually no inherent authority and, for that matter, no right to exist.

        The North Carolina constitution specifies that municipalities exist solely at the pleasure of the legislature. The legislature could, literally, forcibly disband any or all of the state's 550+ cities and towns with the stroke of a pen. Perhaps, if teapukes are in charge, they could do it by voice vote.

        So municipal assets are not well-protected, and municipalities also have no inherent right to taxation. The legislature allows them to levy a property tax. That's pretty much it. If they want a special sales tax, they need permission from Raleigh. They seldom get it. If they want impact fees on new development, they need permission from Raleigh. They never get it (because the real estate and development industry owns Raleigh).

        The legislature is in the process of stripping all municipalities of the authority to levy business privilege licenses. The legislature is in the process of removing much of the existing municipal zoning and building standards authority.

        You get the point.

        It sucks to be a municipality in North Carolina, especially with teabaggers running the legislature. And if a municipality happens to be heavily Democratic - either in population or in municipal government - they are subject to even more abusive treatment. The legislature has stolen Asheville's airport, is in the process of stealing Asheville's utility system and is in the process of stealing Charlotte's airport.

        "Bernie Madoff's mistake was stealing from the rich. If he'd stolen from the poor he'd have a cabinet position." -OPOL

        by blue in NC on Fri May 03, 2013 at 03:39:58 PM PDT

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