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  •  20 sane Republicans (1+ / 0-)
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    dopper0189

    In this scenario, we need only 20 sane Republicans--well, actually, 20 sane elected Republicans, which is not the same thing--to flip to consistent D voting to make things OK.

    The problem is that Boehner is under pressure not to bring sane measures to a vote to permit sane members of his party to join the Ds in a vote.  

    So we need them to flip parties to really effect change.

    •  When did party discipline get so tight, and why? (2+ / 0-)
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      dopper0189, Eric Nelson

      When I was a kid straight party-line votes were an exception.

      Freedom isn't free. Patriots pay taxes.

      by Dogs are fuzzy on Sun May 05, 2013 at 03:48:19 PM PDT

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      •  nationalization, death of the solid south, '94, (2+ / 0-)
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        Stephen Wolf, gabjoh

        I think that it is the ultimate result of a high degree of nationalization of American political culture.  Theoretically you could consider it the logical consequence of the rise of national news organizations that has only now been this strongly realised.

        The biggest difference is probably in the south in that southern democrats were a large caucus with an identity distinct from the national party to a greater extent than any other region.  When the Republicans became the party of white southern traditionalists this caucus has been dying a slow death and now I believe that a southern democratic caucus would be majority black and much more aligned to the national leadership.

        1994 might be the watershed moment when an election was nationalized, the Republican party whip started exerting more power and local electoral quirks were officially put on watch.

      •  Few reasons (6+ / 0-)

        1. The rise of primary challenges
        2. People self-sorting (Democrats move to cities, Republicans move to wealthy suburbs, etc.)
        3. Politicians self-sorting (conservatives realized they belonged in the Republican Party)
        4. Increased gerrymandering

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        Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
        UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

        by jncca on Sun May 05, 2013 at 04:17:17 PM PDT

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      •  Tom Delay and the Danny Hastert (4+ / 0-)

        changed the way the House rain in the late 90's it's never been the same since. We use to have regional solidarity (all Southerners voting down civil rights, all farm state reps voting up farm bills, etc) but never this much party straight line voting.

        -1.63/ -1.49 "Speaking truth to power" (with snark of course)!

        by dopper0189 on Sun May 05, 2013 at 04:37:05 PM PDT

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