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  •  You have a good eye for color, Ralphdog; (1+ / 0-)
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    boran2

    your painting turned out really well.

    I agree completely on the oils/acrylic issue. I always feel that acrylics, if treated as you treat oils, are like working with glue. Oil is wonderful... let's you contemplate and breathe and fiddle as much as you need to, to get things just the way you want... or scrape it off and try it again!

    But acrylics are fun for many things too. Watercolor-style paintings can be done very effectively with acrylics, just don't expect them to act the same on the paper as real watercolors do. I took a class once where we painted outside with just three tubes of acrylic, water and a Sharpie pen...I was amazed at how much variety you could get. In one session we did five or six little "mixed media" paintings. Great for hiking or biking and still finding time for art!

    Of course, if you work on small canvases as boran2 does, acrylics are an excellent choice -- you can work fast enough to stay ahead of the paint and get great results.

    •  I found oils extremely fustrating. (1+ / 0-)
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      RiveroftheWest

      The slow drying time made things more difficult for me.  I couldn't wait to get back to acrylics.

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      by boran2 on Sat May 04, 2013 at 04:58:32 PM PDT

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      •  Acrylics certainly work for you! (2+ / 0-)
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        boran2, Ralphdog

        On small canvases fast drying is a good thing; not always so  on large ones.

        On a large surface you can often just leave one area to dry while you work on another. But really, I think lots of it is just personnel preference... I started in oils (about 60 years ago!) and I love the buttery feel and the smell of turpentine and the way oils blend.

        And I like pencil and charcoal and pastels and ink too!

        Thank you for this fine diary, boran2.

        •  Thank you for your comments! (1+ / 0-)
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          I can certainly see where it would be helpful on a larger surface.  I've been working with acrylics for more than 30 years.  It would be too hard to change now.  ;-)  

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          by boran2 on Sat May 04, 2013 at 05:59:05 PM PDT

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      •  I definitely get that. First few times I used oils (2+ / 0-)
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        boran2, RiveroftheWest

        ...I had an instant mess. Acrylics dry so fast you can layer one color right over another, especially outdoors. Try that with oil paint and you get a pile of grey-brown goo. With oil paint you have to work in a very organized sequence, starting with a very thin layer of solvent-thinned paint and gradually moving to thicker and/or oilier medium-softened paint applied with a very light hand. Otherwise you stir up the lower layers into a progressively muddier mess.

        There are plenty of painters who do fabulous work with acrylics. One near me, Mikel Wintermantel, creates spectacular landscapes by doing an underpainting of acrylic followed by an 'isolation layer' of matte medium, then more acrylic paint and so on. The medium protects the lower layers, so if a subsequent passage doesn't work he just wipes it off and tries again. The final results are lovely.

        •  I can't plan that far ahead. ;-) (1+ / 0-)
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          Seriously, I've been with acrylics too long to change now.  It's been more than 30 years.

          Also, I find that things sometimes happen with acrylics that are unplanned but helpful, happy accidents as it were.  It sounds like that is less likely with oils.  (Let me know if I'm wrong about that.)

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          by boran2 on Sat May 04, 2013 at 06:04:39 PM PDT

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          •  All sorts of happy accidents with oils. (2+ / 0-)
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            RiveroftheWest, boran2

            Especially (in my case) when using a palette knife and getting serendipitous blends on the canvas that look great but were quite unplanned.

            Of course, that may just reflect my relative newbie status. My sense is that experienced painters often know exactly what they're going to get.

    •  Thank you! (2+ / 0-)
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      RiveroftheWest, boran2

      You're quite right about using acrylics like watercolors. I've done a few paintings on watercolor paper or Ampersand's lovely Aquabord using lots of pre-wetting to float the acrylic pain around. You can get some really neat effects. And once you're done playing with the watercolor style, as soon as the paper or board is dry you can start using thicker acrylics on top.

      •  Not sure I'd want to cover watercolor (1+ / 0-)
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        with acrylic... but of course it depends on what your goal is! They're definitely compatible... and again, you can use inks with them too, for a combo of painting and drawing.

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