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  •  I have NEVER heard of an entry level position (2+ / 0-)
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    requiring a master's, and look at the salary range - $85K to $100K. that's not entry level

    but yes other things make it sound entry level. which is what makes me suspicious

    "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

    by eXtina on Sun May 05, 2013 at 12:49:59 PM PDT

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    •  There are basically two degrees for architects (0+ / 0-)

      these days, or degrees that will allow for you to take the licensing exams.  They are BArch and MArch.  The BArch is a 5 year program at universities where you must apply and qualify for a spot after the first year.  There are usually a very limited number of slots available - think med school hard to get into, but earlier in the schooling.

      The MArch is either a one, or two, year program depending upon what your Bachelor's degree is in.  One year if it's a BArch, two if not.  Again this is a very selective process.

      I have a BA in Arch and was caught in the licensing rule change.  So, I worked in historic preservation for a while cause that didn't necessarily need a licensed architect to do the work.

      •  thank you for the lecture (1+ / 0-)
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        I am a BArch my husband is a BArch and MArch we are both registered architects and both licensed - had you looked at my profile you would have seen (some of)  that.
        Having said all that - you still don't need a master's for an entry level architectural position. Very few, except for teaching positions, require it.

        "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

        by eXtina on Sun May 05, 2013 at 04:52:50 PM PDT

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        •  And there's one of the many reasons why I didn't (0+ / 0-)

          continue and get a MArch.....

        •  You need experience you can't get in school (0+ / 0-)

          In Boston a young architect studying nights at the BAC and working in the office of a registered architect days or someone that is enrolled in the coop program at Wentworth or Northeastern, is valued more highly than someone studying at Harvard or MIT because of the field experience they are getting.

          Engineers and contractors have more respect for architects that have worked in the building trades and whose details reflect an understanding of who does what work when.

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          by rktect on Mon May 06, 2013 at 03:36:49 AM PDT

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        •  I looked and didn't see it (0+ / 0-)

          Although I did find your discussion of barefooting interesting.  I would be interested to hear about your experience actually building things yourself; Do you shoe horses? Have a forge? Have you ever built a barn, a stable or a smithy? How does that experience inform your architecture?

          Would you hire someone with only one year of experience on their resume to be a part of your decision making process?

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          by rktect on Mon May 06, 2013 at 03:52:52 AM PDT

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    •  The degree isn't what is important (0+ / 0-)

      but it might offset the one year of experience, as experience studying design; maybe at fifty percent so that you would consider the applicant as having enough years of experience to qualify as entry level.

      You normally would not hire an individual with only one year hands on field experience to do things like CA, coordinating design development with engineers, meeting with contractors; but it might be enough to help out around the office sending and receiving mail, making copies, maintaining the library and eventually to start IADP.

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      by rktect on Mon May 06, 2013 at 03:28:09 AM PDT

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