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  •  It is a military base... (0+ / 0-)

    That fact alone makes it a military target for groups with which the US is currently engaged in a "War."

    The fact that families are housed on the base makes no difference.  If the US Air Force can find that the Bombing of Dresden was militarily justified, then an armed assault on an actual military base clearly is as well.  

    Unless you want to take the position that every non-combatant death caused by an attack on a military target is Criminal.  In which case, you need to start campaigning for the President's impeachment for all of the innocent people that have been killed by our drone strikes.

    •  Below you're claiming that Hasan wasn't (0+ / 0-)

      a terrorist or a member of a opposing military force. But you're supporting Mr. David Mizner's claim that fort hood attack wasn't a terrorist act because it was a military target. Your logic doesn't make sense.

      •  It makes complete sense... (0+ / 0-)

        Mizner's point, which I have seen him make repeatedly, is that you can't call an attack on our military an act of Terrorism because it isn't against non-combatants.

        I take the view that either Hasan's horrible act falls into the Terrorism vs Legitimate Military Target paradigm, or he is just a criminal.

        Those who want to call him a Terrorist are choosing the first paradigm, which bring with it certain a legal framework and definitions.  And this framework clearly shows that his attack on a military base was not Terrorism.

        •  In that case Hasan is an enemy combatant (0+ / 0-)

          not just another criminal who attacked an American military base.

          •  Yes, if you believe the AUMF is as broad... (0+ / 0-)

            as the current Administration has been interpreting it, then Hasan was an enemy combatant.  Of course, they didn't try to charge him as one because declaring a US citizen to be an enemy combatant in a mukily defined war would set off most people's bullshit detectors.  Plus, the US legal system is prefectly capable of dealing with people like Hasan.  

            I tend to think that he was just a deranged person who snapped and did a terrible thing.  But then again, I have always thought that John Kerry was right when he said that "Terrorism" (I use quotatin makrs because the term is so manipulatively used) is a criminal matter, not a military one.

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