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    Norm would seemingly be OK with a general ban on civilian gun carrying IF it extended to police as well
    Yes, we already know Norm is. . . um . . .  a little odd that way.

    But hey, if it makes you feel better, I'd be all in favor of an AK47 fully-loaded in the hands of every American--IF the space aliens invaded and we had to fight them off. But since neither of those is about to happen in our lifetimes, I think we can safely not waste our time on either of them, and instead ask Norm what he REALLY thinks about this "taking guns away from the morons" that he is happy-talking about in an actual existing real-world situation---some moron carelessly shoots himself or someone else.

    Well, Norm?  Whaddya think? Should the irresponsible moron get to keep his gunz or not?

    •  You have to find the moron mentally ill first (1+ / 0-)
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      GoGoGoEverton

      If you're talking about disarming before a crime...
      You can disarm every moron in America as soon as you put each and every single one of them in court and find them legally insane and/or a danger to the public.  But that pretty much means taking all rights away from them.  They don't get to own so much as a pointy stick.  No cars, knives or chainsaws either.  If they are so mentally unstable that they can't be trusted with a gun, they can't be trusted at all.

      •  Why? (2+ / 0-)
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        DefendOurConstitution, coquiero

        If you shoot yourself or someone else, you have proved that you are a danger to yourself or others - very, very clearly. I mean, there's a bullet lodged in someone that proves you could not handle the gun safely.

        I don't think we have to add "mentally ill" to the list in order for it to be legitimate to take all guns away from someone who demonstrates so clearly that they are incapable of proper gun handling. Proving that you are a danger by actually shooting someone is all that should be needed to remove your right to have guns. I would not then extend that to cars and knives (or pointy sticks), unless you also grievously harm yourself or someone else with one of those objects.

        I could see allowing a cooling off period, followed by a whole slew of safety training courses, special insurance, and inspected lock-boxes to earn reinstatement of the right to have a gun, but no second chances if the shooting was intentional (attempted suicide or assault) - no matter who was shot. In either of those cases you're incapable of handling your anger, incapable of handling depression, or you have another mental illness.

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