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  •  P.S. How did you get "No" out of my post above? (2+ / 0-)
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    GoGoGoEverton, Ginny in CO

    I clearly stated:

    Gun rights can and should be taken away from individuals in court for their individual behavior.
    And you said:
    OK, so that would be "no, a moron who shoots himself or someone else should NOT have his guns taken away and be prevented from having any more".
    Clearly Lenny, reading comprehension is not one of your strong suits.  If you're going to ignore what I said and state the exact opposite, then just go away and let the adults talk.
    •  do I really need to repeat, Norm? Just because you (4+ / 0-)

      are being obtuse again?

      Ok, I will once more emphasize for everyone why you are full of it:

      If a gun owner irresponsibly shoots himself or someone around him (and to be clear I'll point out that this is NOT A CRIME and virtually NONE of these morons gets charged with anything), should they have their guns taken away from them and be prevented from getting any more?

      Does "shooting myself or someone else" rise to the standard of "maybe I should not be allowed to have a gun"?

      •  Sounds like your problem is with the law (2+ / 0-)
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        GoGoGoEverton, Ginny in CO

        I agree with you Lenny, that most of those "accidental" shootings involve criminal levels of stupidity and therefore they should be crimes.  If I were King, I would make them crimes.

        However, I'm not king and I'm not a DA, so I can't make something a crime if the law says it isn't.  I can't take rights away from people who have not been charged with crimes.  Doesn't work that way.

        But you asked me if those irresponsible gun owners SHOULD have their guns taken away.  And I replied, Yes, they SHOULD have their guns taken away.  They SHOULD be charged with crimes.

        But SHOULD is not the same as SHALL.  Should is my opinion, Shall is the law.  If the law says they get to keep their guns, what would you like me to do about it?

        I support charging these gun nuts with felonies and taking their guns away.  If that doesn't happen to your satisfaction, go complain to the DA.

      •  P.S. You really don't like due process, do you? (1+ / 0-)
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        GoGoGoEverton

        Lenny, I would like you to explain something for me, else I may have to suspect that you are full of it.

        Please explain the process by which you would strip Constitutional rights from someone who has not been convicted in court of any crime.  Please explain where in the Constitution that it says we only have our rights so long as Lenny Flank says we do.

        Furthermore, please explain how that extrajudicial process would be limited to 2nd Amendment, and ONLY 2nd Amendment rights.

        Take your time...

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