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  •  Creationists can't give up dinosaurs. (8+ / 0-)

    It's amazing that the creationists can't accept that if the Earth was created a mere 6000 years ago, the dinosaur fossils must have been created pretty much as they were when discovered. Instead, you have a teacher who thought that Noah had space on his ark for the dinos. Genesis gives dimensions for the ark, I don't see how it could have held a mating pair of Brachiosauri in such a small space.

    The furor over Friday's [10.5] job report revealed a political movement that is rooting for American failure, so obsessed with taking down Obama that good news drives its members into a blind rage. -Paul Krugman

    by Judge Moonbox on Tue May 07, 2013 at 06:55:10 AM PDT

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    •  Simple logistics (8+ / 0-)

      Its impossible to fit mating pairs of all the land animals on Earth onto a modern day aircraft carrier! Noah's Ark is bullshit on its face.

      +++ The law is a weapon used to bludgeon us peasants into submission. It is not to be applied to the monied elite.

      by cybersaur on Tue May 07, 2013 at 07:17:35 AM PDT

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    •  Simple (6+ / 0-)

      It's the same explanation for how a camel can pass through the eye of a needle.

      God has awesome magic skills.

      •  That's what annoys me most about religion (1+ / 0-)
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        Everything they can't answer, and it's almost everything, comes down to "God can do what he wants."

        He's the ultimate deus ex machina, religion needs no logic or proof because God said "abracadabra!"

        But they still want to have the pretense of "science" glued on to their fairy tales. Thus "Intelligent design." Argh!

        •  Oh, and I like to call it Inelegant Design (2+ / 0-)
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          Some other examples of Inelegant Design to go along with back pain:

          Human sinuses: Sinuses work great if you have a snout, even one as small as a chimpanzee's. Once they get compacted into a human-shaped face, they are crap. Definitely inelegant.

          Testicles: I mean, seriously? OUTSIDE? Who's idea was that? It's not even like it's necessary. Several species have internal testicles. We just happen to have evolved from one of the ones that were home sick the day that was discussed in class.

          Teeth: Again, several species evolved regenerating teeth. Why not us? We're supposed to be the "designer's" bestest friends. Why didn't we get better teeth?

          Not to mention regeneration of everything else: why do lizards get it and we didn't?

          Fat: If we're so intelligently designed, why do we get fat? Why doesn't the system optimize for lower metabolic needs? We excrete excess vitamins, why don't we excrete excess fat?

          Cancer: I mean, come ON! They didn't even get that one right. We should at least have an immune system that handles cancer impeccably.

          The list can go on and on. If the same designer created all of the universe and the human body, he MUST have been up all night partying the night before.

          •  Not sure about the rest but on Lizards... (0+ / 0-)

            I think the quick answer is that Scar tissue forms faster.

            I remember reading somewhere that basically the lizard method of regeneration only really works well if you can stay still for a while and don't need to worry so much about food or being eaten yourself.

            Scar tissue forms faster and is "Good enough" for mammals with fast metabolisms that need food often and probably had to originally worry about some types of predators early on.

            •  But god (0+ / 0-)

              can just say abracadabra, right? None of this needs to be based on actual science when god can just do whatever he wants, just like Ironman, or Sarah Palin or some other super hero.

              The question remains, why were humans so poorly "designed?"

      •  Christ's contemporaries saw it figuratively. (1+ / 0-)
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        Back in Jesus's day, cities had walls around them, and these walls would have openings that a camel could squeeze through with difficulty. People called them "Needle's eyes."

        Those who heard Christ with their own ears interpreted that expression figuratively. Do the fundamentalists think that because they're not distracted by a figurative meaning, they're better prepared to pass the test? (In this case, no. They don't see rich men having any problem getting into Heaven, through either a figurative or literal needle's eye.)

        The furor over Friday's [10.5] job report revealed a political movement that is rooting for American failure, so obsessed with taking down Obama that good news drives its members into a blind rage. -Paul Krugman

        by Judge Moonbox on Tue May 07, 2013 at 06:22:13 PM PDT

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    •  Well the Ark with all of the (4+ / 0-)
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      world's animals has to be true. After all, doesn't the Flintstones closing credits show Fred in his mobile with Wilma, Pebbles, Dino and a huge rack of dinosaur spare ribs on top?

      liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

      by RockyMtnLib on Tue May 07, 2013 at 07:44:19 AM PDT

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    •  Don't forget the speed of light and the pyramids. (8+ / 0-)

      The speed of light is 186,000 miles per second - it's a demonstrable fact. If you took all the matter in the observable universe and compressed it into 6000 light years it would melt us.

       Noah's ark landed on dry land a mere 150 years before the slaves of Egypt build the pyramids. So those 8 people had enough offspring to not just build the pyramids, they produced the offspring of the Egyptian over class that enslaved them(who didn't remember who their grand parents were), and all the other people in other civilizations like China. It's impossibly ridiculous!

    •  the Creation Museum has Dinosaurs... (4+ / 0-)
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      And the explanation.
      "Biblical history is the key to understanding dinosaurs."
      http://creationmuseum.org/...

    •  The Chinese, Indians and Africans had civilization (2+ / 0-)
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      6000 years old and never reported dinosaurs.

      Joy shared is doubled. Pain shared is halved. Spider Robinson

      by nolagrl on Tue May 07, 2013 at 02:45:52 PM PDT

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