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  •  But don't more people die from falling off... (10+ / 0-)

    their rooftops than domestic terrorism?

    Or accidental drownings in pools?

    Terrorism is a real threat but we shouldn't allow our fear to bankrupt this nation in defense spending.
    Or turn this country into Fortress America.

    •  Well, I'm glad to hear you say terrorism is a (4+ / 0-)

      real fear.... At least you recognize the issue.... Now, in terms of how much we spend combatting the threat of terrorism, I suppose that's a fair debate.

      I will say, though,  more people are killed year after year by car crashes than from flooding, but we still need to invest in ways of preventing flooding before they happen.... Here, again, as to how much to spend on this issue is a reasonable debate.

      •  congratulations on being terrorized (3+ / 0-)
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        mission accomplished...

        I assume you are as concerned each time you board a plane, or ride/drive in a car.  The chances of being impacted by a horrific event within those confines is much greater.

        I am reasonably comfortable with our laws and the job law enforcement does in managing those transportation modes.  I am not willing to equate those who see terror around every corner with those who accept that some security is slightly diminished in a free society.  I am more concerned about those that are more comfortable allowing terrorists to terrorize them, like David Gregory, thereby impacting our overall civil rights.

        "Small Businesses Don't Build Levees" - Melissa Harris Perry

        by justmy2 on Mon May 06, 2013 at 02:26:56 PM PDT

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        •  The people who were killed in Mass were terrorized (2+ / 0-)
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          Still the belief that there is terrorism doesn't mean the accepter of that fact is terroized, I was just a few blocks away from the world trade center when terrorists attacked those buildings with airplanes and I along with many other New Yorkers continued to travel back and forth from that location in the ensuing days and even until today. So your snark that I am terrorized just because I believe that terrorism exist is quite weak.

          •  It wasn't snark. (5+ / 0-)

            It was literally the truth.   You are the only one that was blocks away from something that happened on 9/11.  Everyone had different reactions.  No one said it was terror. I said you have accepted being terrorized.  Maybe you aren't. But your argument makes it seem as though it is the case.

            Me...who could see smoke from my office window blocks away, I was looking for the first plane to get on as soon as possible.  1.  To show terrorists that their insanity wasn't enough to make America any less the home of the brave.  2. It was never going to be safer when flights reopened.

            We choose to let terrorists put us in fear.  I refuse to allow them to make me ignore all logic because 19 loonies devised a way to get by the system once, or two fools in Boston decided to read the internet and decided to go crazy.

            I don't live by the anomaly.  And frankly, I wish more people would stand up and stop letting terrorists run our lives.   There is a time to be in fear.  Like say, London 1942.  Yet, they devised a motto that you are familiar with. Let's try to have the same level of confidence and bravery that the generation before us had, and not give these folks the attention they so dearly want, and change the country they so dearly wish they could.  Its folks like Gregory that choose to focus on fear for ratings that drove us into war 10 years ago and are doing their darndest to do it again.   Why not stand against them, instead of trying to find a way to make it seem like a strawman on the other side is the equivalent.

            "Small Businesses Don't Build Levees" - Melissa Harris Perry

            by justmy2 on Mon May 06, 2013 at 04:59:50 PM PDT

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      •  And more people die from collisions with deer (6+ / 0-)

        Which is why we need more mountain lions!

        I think everyone would agree that investigating and preventing terrorism is an appropriate role for the FBI and CIA.  I think we desperately need to have the national debate on the size of our military budget, and we certainly need to talk more about civil liberties.  

        We can reduce the risks to an acceptable level by good law enforcement, good intelligence, and a strong local, state and federal law enforcement and court system.  The problem - and I suspect you agree - is that we tend to get stampeded whenever these events occur.  That benefits nobody.  I suspect we're not in disagreement at all.

        “If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our institutions, great is our sin.” Charles Darwin

        by ivorybill on Mon May 06, 2013 at 04:00:42 PM PDT

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    •  Too late, alas. (0+ / 0-)

      The worst of the security/surveillance state is that I don't see it ever ending.  Permanency is one of its features.  

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