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  •  If the plotters had had any weapons or a plan (2+ / 0-)
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    Executive Odor, Jim Domenico

    not provided for them by an NYPD  "anti-terrorist" agents provocateur .

    And then there was the guy with the British Connection  who was going to make rocket fuel  grade hydrogen peroxide by cooking the stuff you buy from hair salon wholesalers.  

    And the guy who was going to set Kennedy Airport on fire by doing something with a road flare in the airport fuel depot.

    So  we've had a choice between the "aspirational" and the "impractical" over which Police Commissioner Ray Kelly got to gloat.

    And all we had to give up in return were  1st, 4th and 5th Amendment rights of the  Mosque-attending portion of NY's civilian population.

    Come to think of it: we've probably lost more citizens to shot by  NYPD than have been shot, bombed, gassed, poisoned, or spit on by  "terrorists."

    •  You mock the incredible work (3+ / 0-)

      done to protect us. Some of the attacks were pretty stupid, but some of the foiled plots were very serious.

      And you pretend that terrorist plots simply kill people. They do, but they also cause economic damage and things like PTSD for many, many more people.

      When you look around the world, muslim "terrorists" use bombs to kill hundreds of people each day. I only used the quotes here because you did, Adam, to me, they are terrorists, as in no quotation marks.

      I'm afraid that my signature won't match the mood of my comment.

      by heybuddy on Mon May 06, 2013 at 05:25:05 PM PDT

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      •  Terror is an effective tactic only because .. (1+ / 0-)
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        and to the extent that,   people are willing

        1) to be terrorized --
        and
        2) to amplify, embellish and spread their fears

        Hence

        One discovered Terrorist  (singular) becomes The (many) Terrorists.

        "What might have been,"  is every bit as horrifying as  if really had happened --

        Plotters can  be re-imagined as sinister supermen who cannot be detected by ordinary police procedures, who cannot be tried by ordinary courts, or confined in ordinary jails.

        So a malcontent moslem kid from Queens sketching subway stations at the direction of an NYPD paid informant becomes one of Bin Laden's Terrorist SuperDupermen.

        "Everyone Wins !"  The authorities consolidate their power over those who feel the need to be protected ... the terrorists increase their prestige among their sponsors and followers -- and demand is created for private security products and services.  

        Bin Laden was of the opinion that Americans were weak, craven, and easily frightened into self-harming over-reaction.  

        He wasn't very wrong, was he ?

    •  Now that was perhaps the most incoherent thing (1+ / 0-)
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      Dr Swig Mcjigger

      I have read here in a while.  Of the little I can decode, it teeters between the loathsome and the laughable.

      Quite an achievement.

    •  not so sure about this one: (0+ / 0-)
      Come to think of it: we've probably lost more citizens to shot by  NYPD than have been shot, bombed, gassed, poisoned, or spit on by  "terrorists."
      Maybe over many decades, but about 3000 people were killed by terrorists on 9/11/01.

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