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  •  Like I said (5+ / 0-)

    you don't understand solidarity.

    Why would anyone want that? As it is, other workers aren't the ones who are helped by my accomplishments or feel the pain of my failures. The last thing experts want is having their compensation decided by other workers.
    Why would anyone want to have a say in their workplace? Why would they want to organize with their coworkers so they could have a better place to work? Obviously, you're better than everyone else so you don't need other people. I hope for your sake that this continues to be true.

    If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

    by AoT on Mon May 06, 2013 at 04:41:12 PM PDT

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    •  Indeed (5+ / 0-)

      His comments are typical of the individualistic chauvinism that says I Am The Best and Will Always Have Power Over the Market Because I Am So Best-est.  Sadly this is endemic to our society.  Produces a lot of bitter people in the end as their rosy visions of success crumble, and perpetuates the power of capital over the people.

      Convincing people of the need for organized labor first requires educating them of the fragility of their position, that is to say, as individual standing alone in the market. Our society that celebrates the entrepreneur conveniently leaves out the much greater number of sad stories of persons destroyed by the market, even those hard working professionals happy to serve as an employee to make a firm private profits.  Guess they're just "inferior" programmers.

    •  Solidarity with who? (1+ / 0-)
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      If I'm a Googler and I'm in their top 10% of programmers doing cutting edge stuff I've almost certainly got options and a likely promotion path into management.

      Should I feel solidarity with the guy in the cubicle next to me who's a 50%er and does well enough not to be fired but not well enough to be promoted and get options?  Or with my manager, who was a star programmer like me a year ago and with the shareholders, given that my options make me effectively a shareholder?

      •  Yep, you're a special little snowflake (0+ / 0-)

        And you're better than everyone.

        You clearly don't understand solidarity and folks like you are part of the problem. Keep on screwing the rest of us though, I'm sure the folks in charge will never fuck you over. They never do that to the nouveau riche.

        If debt were a moral issue then, lacking morals, corporations could never be in debt.

        by AoT on Tue May 07, 2013 at 10:20:25 AM PDT

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