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  •  He'll finish the books (4+ / 0-)
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    Puddytat, Portlaw, lyvwyr101, Seneca Doane

    He works at his own pace, but he'll finish them. I have the feeling that Martin is an utter perfectionist, which would explain the 5-6 year gaps between books.

    •  He's getting a bit long in the tooth (7+ / 0-)

      so he needs to step it up a bit. I, too, am long in the tooth and would like to read the whole set before I step off the mortal plane.

      There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

      by Puddytat on Mon May 06, 2013 at 10:45:26 PM PDT

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      •  Odds Against (3+ / 0-)
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        I've been following the series very closely since "96.  On his blog, Martin laments having to devote so much time to these books, noting he'd like to work on other projects, and has been having health issues.  He's a slow thoughtful writer, so even under the best of circumstances working as hard as he might they'd be coming out slowly.  Most somewhat educated guess is that he's found so many interesting plot lines the books have expanded enormously.  I think he'd have been better served by finishing the beginning storyline about the wolf pups found in the snow and then writing many of the other stories as side novellas or novels but I'm unsure if that would have worked and I think the books are great.

        Anyone thinking they should chide GRRM about working too slowly:  I'd suggest not.  He's well, well aware of the issue.   About two years ago, he posted that his wife constantly reminds him; that he posted that he received  numerous complaints about the slow pace, including several folk pointing out they will likely die before the series ends.  Its now almost 20 years since it started.  Also, GRRM's friend Robert Jordan died before completing his Wheel of Time series.  

        On a somewhat good note, he's written that he's told David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, who are coordinating the the HBO  series, how the main story lines end.  On a bad note, IMO Benioff and Weiss are taking more and more liberties with the book's story lines.  Some work (after all, the small screen is a different medium and they have budget constraints) some are to me pretty annoying as they change the character threads. For example, in the books Loras Tyrell is the youngest of three brothers and the HBO series has decided to remove the older two brothers (minor characters but who drive some of the Tyrell family dynamics) completely.  

        •  "every time you bitch about how slow (3+ / 0-)

          George is  writing the next book, he kills off another Stark"

          Or something like that - I believe it was Neil Gaiman, or another fantasy writer friend of Martin's who said that a few years ago.  Also "George RR Martin is not your bitch."  That was Gaiman, I'm pretty sure.

          Seriously, I cannot imagine how oppressive it must be for any writer of an epic series like this to wake up every day and know that this "THING" is waiting for you to keep writing it, and the fans are breathing down your neck, and now, the TV production adds even more pressure.  I think of Conan Doyle trying to just kill off Sherlock Holmes because he couldn't stand it any more.  I salute Martin for sticking with it - it's his creative vision, he doesn't owe any of  us anything.  Of course I hope he finishes it - and hey, all you people implying he's a decrepit old guy, he's in his early  60's, for cripes' sake (as am I) so don't dig his grave just yet.

        •  He managed to crank out the first 3 books (0+ / 0-)

          in less than 5 years - 1996 for A Game of Thrones, 1998 for A Clash of Kings and 2000 for A Storm of Swords.  

          Most consider those books better than Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons, even though we waited longer for the two last books.

          However, he also had a problem with the last two books because he was supposedly starting to write book 4 with a five year gap after the close of A Storm of Swords - so, we'd pick up with Bran, Arya, etc all being aged five years.

          Once he was into it, though, he realized that the five year gap wouldn't work for everybody and trashed the whole idea and started over again.  Then, ran into more problems and decided to split the books between characters.

          So, that's my long-winded way of saying that he's hopefully worked out the problems he had with books 4 and 5 and will crank out the last two (or three?) books a bit quicker than he did the last two.  He's done it before, so he can do it again.

          "I'm not a member of an organized political party - I'm a Democrat." Will Rogers

          by newjeffct on Tue May 07, 2013 at 10:22:26 AM PDT

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