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  •  to be fair, nothing prevents the barrel from (0+ / 0-)

    being printed out of metal.

    •  Except access to the metal-sintering machine. (1+ / 0-)
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      Our intrepid, Camus-loving libertarian doesn't strike me as someone who has such access.

      Maybe in 30 years...

      Oh, and the idea of the plastic gun is to give it a small detection footprint. Metal parts kinda negate that advantage, and it would probably be cheaper to use conventional machine tools and parts from Brownell's.

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      by JeffW on Mon May 06, 2013 at 10:27:34 PM PDT

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      •  just go here: (0+ / 0-)

        http://www.shapeways.com/...

        Delivery in less than two weeks.  (shrug)

        •  Nice, but $8 per cm³? (0+ / 0-)

          That would get expensive for a zip gun.

          And unless you have them send you the finished parts randomly, someone will figure it out. Kinda detracts from the DIY thing...

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          by JeffW on Mon May 06, 2013 at 10:39:11 PM PDT

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          •  you don't need the whole gun to be metal (2+ / 0-)
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            Just the barrel. To them, it's nothing but a metal tube.  (shrug)

            The rest of the gun works just fine as plastic. It doesn't need to be metal.

            •  And getting Shapeways into the act... (0+ / 0-)

              ...will leave a digital trail, even if you have them make the metal parts, and ecase them in plastic in your own printer. Again, probably not what our intrepid, camus-loving libertarian would want.

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              by JeffW on Mon May 06, 2013 at 11:04:47 PM PDT

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              •  a digital trail to what--the gun that can't be (1+ / 0-)
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                traced back to you?

                THAT is the real advantage to it, not the low-detectability (who wants to rob people on an airplane anyway?).

                You can download it, get your barrel, rob a gas station with it, and drop it in the trash. Even if the cops find it (how many trash barrels are there in the city?), they can't trace it to you anyway. Unless they get DNA or prints off it (and have yours on file), in which case the paper trail no longer matters.

                •  They recover the gun... (1+ / 0-)
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                  ...take it apart, then consult with Shapeways. You're busted.

                  And why go to all that trouble for a throwaway gun? Maybe it'll be cheap in 30 years, but not now.

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                  by JeffW on Mon May 06, 2013 at 11:31:10 PM PDT

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                •  More to the point: You can engage in a political (0+ / 0-)

                  act of terror/freedom (depending).

                  Even more to the point: You create an awareness that you can engage in a political act of terro/freedom.

                  Or, of course, you can just keep it around for self-defense.
                  In that case, it probably doesn't matter how many shots it can fire, or fi somebody could trace it back to you: it's in your possession and isn't likely to ever be fired.

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                  by dinotrac on Tue May 07, 2013 at 02:13:26 AM PDT

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      •  The idea of a plastic gun here is that cheap (0+ / 0-)

        3D printers use plastic -- today.

        The small detection footprint is a side effect that may be very interesting to some, but is an asterisk for most.

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        by dinotrac on Tue May 07, 2013 at 02:10:52 AM PDT

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