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  •  MLK didn't march on Selma fully weaponized. (26+ / 0-)

    They're seeking trouble. I suspect they'd love to have a martyr, as long as it doesn't turn out to be someone whose pistol went off in his pants.

    It may be both legal and dangerously, stupidly provocative.

    You can't fly a plane anywhere near the White House. You can't even picket near a political convention. Why should a thousand armed gunmen who hate the government be allowed within a mile of the president's residence?

    No rights are unlimited.

    "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

    by Bob Love on Mon May 06, 2013 at 08:44:26 PM PDT

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    •  Of course the pistol in the pants is most likely. (1+ / 0-)
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      I don't see this as especially scary. I see this as more slightly ridiculous.

      by Magenta on Mon May 06, 2013 at 10:08:31 PM PDT

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      •  I see it as intentionally threatening. (9+ / 0-)

        They see it as "asserting their rights". But it's provocative, and their attitude is pretty obviously based more on pent-up anger than on righteous constitutionalism.

        I'm pretty sure the police and secret service can handle them, though. I foresee a lot of bug-eyed bluster. They'll all be white, so it's not like the authorities are gonna come down too hard on them anyway.

        "I was a big supporter of waterboarding" - Dick Cheney 2/14/10

        by Bob Love on Mon May 06, 2013 at 10:26:17 PM PDT

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        •  Asserting your rights ... (0+ / 0-)

          is provocative.

          I mean, I think they're straight-out crazy. But the best course for the police and the Secret Service is in fact to not come down too hard on them.

          The crazy ones want to start a full-throttled revolution. The conformists are just excited to show off their, um, weapons. Give them their escort and send them home to jack off.

          by Magenta on Mon May 06, 2013 at 10:39:41 PM PDT

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          •  The police MUST enforce the law. (4+ / 0-)
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            These guys need to be arrested at this protest.
               Remember, peaceful protesters have been raided and arrested and their signs and puppets seized before they could protest.
              Why should armed demonstrators be allowed?

            •  And it's always gone so well ... (0+ / 0-)

              when the police decide they're going to come down hard on peaceful protestors?

              Seriously, I don't agree with these people, but throwing a gun over your shoulder and marching is civil disobedience. Now, I don't know to what, exactly, as no one has ever proposed taking away muskets and hunting rifles. But as the event is described, it is classic civil disobedience. That I don't agree with the cause has nothing to do with what it is. If they don't shoot anyone, well, the right to peaceable assembly shall not be infringed.

              Yes, they're going to break a law, so did the people who sat at lunch counters.

              I truly believe that the error here would be overreacting not underreacting. If the police come in ready to create a debacle, we'll have a debacle. Let them march, make their point and go home.

              Why would arresting them and potentially creating a firefight help with the situation?

              I mean, quid pro quo? Our anti-war protestors were arrested, so your pro-gun-rights folks must? How does this help?


              by Magenta on Tue May 07, 2013 at 01:22:05 PM PDT

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