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  •  Dude, this says it all. (1+ / 0-)
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    but the adults are the ones having the weird feelings.
    You are implying that the adults are the ones having a problem. Ok, fine, that is your belief.

    As the host of the party - in our society - I do not think that I should have to speak to

    The parents should have been spoken to in a corner and then they could tell the girls that they don't swim without suits when they are with mummy and daddys work friends, that's for at home.
    I invited these people into my home. It should not be ON ME to tell them gee---- if your kids like to run around nakkid - tell them not to at this adult party! That would be really creepy. Don'tcha think?

    Who is the creepy one? The host of the party who had NO IDEA that two of the guests would let their little girls swim nude in an apartment complex pool? Or the parents who let their little girls swim nude in an apartment complex pool in front of a bunch of people, mostly guys BTW! the kids have never met? I think it was totally on the parents for putting my co-workers in a VERY uncomfortable situation.

    Oh, I know your answer already. The adults are the creepy ones because we should accept nudity. Got it. Therefore, we just need to disagree on this issue.

    if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

    by mrsgoo on Mon May 06, 2013 at 10:52:29 PM PDT

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    •  if they are socially unaware enough that (4+ / 0-)
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      they don't know little Suzy and Jenny need to put their suits on - then as their host - it IS your obligation to gently let them know that it's making people uncomfortable and to FIX IT NOW.  Because that is part of being a host or hostess.

      But the weird feelings ARE the responsibility of the adults having them, social breach or not.  

      I didn't say any of it was creepy, you did.  Awkward, sure. Impolite, sure. But a 3 and 5 year old are not adult aware of general nudity prohibitions or being sexual by being nude. Their parents should be socially aware - but it's not the kids fault the adults in the room feel how they feel - nor should they be shamed or humiliated for being small children who don't know the grown up rules.

      And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

      by Mortifyd on Mon May 06, 2013 at 11:02:47 PM PDT

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      •  The parents were completely socially aware. The (2+ / 0-)
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        comment was - "they go naked at home", when I gave the raised eyebrow at my co-worker (the dad) when the oldest came running up nude. So I guess they were using their kids to make a social statement. I nor anyone else made any statement to shame or humiliate the little girls. Everybody just decided that it might be best to move the party back to my apartment. So if anybody was exploiting anybody there - it would be the parents. I can only assume they wanted a shock value thing. It worked. Never invited them to a party at my house again.

        if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

        by mrsgoo on Mon May 06, 2013 at 11:21:56 PM PDT

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        •  so you dealt with it... (0+ / 0-)

          by not dealing with it?  OK.  Your call.  But you are the one making assumptions me thinking it was creepy - not me.  Rude - certainly.  Not creepy - and still not the same situation.  That was your home and your complex - this is a kid in his own yard minding his own business - and someone else deciding to mind it as well without speaking to the parents.

          And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

          by Mortifyd on Tue May 07, 2013 at 12:22:57 AM PDT

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      •  it is more than being "socially aware" - this has (1+ / 0-)
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        to do with protecting children from predators.

        perhaps you missed this story today?  

        furthermore, when i had my rv parked in a very nice "vacation rv park" open to travellers, the "groundskeeper" was a convicted child molester (the 14 yr old friend of his daughter) - he was ALWAYS on the property "chatting up" the young girls on vacation as they rode their bikes around the property.

        tharu's concern is a valid one - the child is at risk by being near a public road.  the possibility of abduction and/or being molested/killed increases when there predators find easy temptation.

        don't believe he should worry?  then check your own neighborhoods to see how many predators live in your own neighborhood.  i think you might be surprised - and, perhaps, might hold your own children (if you have them) a bit closer tonite.

        EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

        by edrie on Tue May 07, 2013 at 12:14:53 AM PDT

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        •  yes, yes, the perv behind every bush. (1+ / 0-)
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          I don't live in fear.  I didn't as a kid, when I had free run of the bases (and towns when we didn't live on bases - even in other countries) and faced molesters in uniforms and one of my own uncles - and I don't now.  My first run in was at 6 on a post playground - and this was well before the "stranger danger" days.  most molesters are people you know, not some random creeper snatching kids off the street.  And I'm autistic for the record myself.

          And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

          by Mortifyd on Tue May 07, 2013 at 12:19:59 AM PDT

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          •  or the one on "every street" that abducted and (0+ / 0-)

            murdered my colleague in 1967?

            how many have to be harmed before you take notice?  caring isn't a crime - and it damned well may help one child.

            we live in different times - when i was small, when you were small, things were very different than now.

            how?

            widespread access to child pornography online (internet, duh)
            nearly everyone has easy access to cars  (not so when i was growing up - usually only one per entire family) and much more.

            the prevalence of child predators may not have "grown" but they sure have easier access now - so, on the off chance that this child is in harm's way, you don't see the necessity to try to minimize the risk to the child?

            a nude kid running around inside his/her home is one thing - running around outside is putting that child at risk, imho.  i care about the child.  nothing else matters, imho.

            EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

            by edrie on Tue May 07, 2013 at 12:08:42 PM PDT

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            •  okay - re-read your post - and i'm sorry you've (0+ / 0-)

              had bad experiences - still, the problems now are wider - the stranger abductions are more publicized, if not more common.  we had an incident in the bay area where a man grabbed a small child and was only stopped by the mother's screaming - the kid was 5 yrs old.  

              if you google 'attempted abduction of child" - there are over 5 million hits in 29 seconds.  

              that's why i worry and i'm guessing that's part of tharu's concern, too.

              EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

              by edrie on Tue May 07, 2013 at 12:15:21 PM PDT

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          •  Actually (0+ / 0-)

            my father is a sexual abuser, has a permanent site at a campground, and apparently the owner knows and is fine with it.

            How are the other guests to find out? It really, really bothers me.

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            by LoreleiHI on Tue May 07, 2013 at 09:48:42 PM PDT

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        •   protecting children from predators (0+ / 0-)

          yeah, and we need to make sure women don't dress the wrong way too. After all some pervert could get all excited and unable to control himself.

          •  oh, please. if you don't "get" this discussion, (0+ / 0-)

            at least please refrain from the false equivalencies.

            this is NOT the same.

            just yesterday, three young women were found who were abducted and held captive for ten friggin' years.

            children are more vulnerable than adults and it is the responsibility of ADULTS to try to minimize that risk and danger.

            sheesh!

            leaving this now - i'm getting very annoyed.

            EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

            by edrie on Tue May 07, 2013 at 12:17:34 PM PDT

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