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  •  That's all known. It's because those rules (1+ / 0-)
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    and processes are failing so miserably that they are being scrutinized. It can vary in each service and location, just as civilian situations vary widely.

    Instead of old and new policies and emphasis improving the stats, they are significantly worse. Is that because of more awareness? Backlash? It just reinforces the problem is not getting the right intervention.

    The point is to ask how to be sure effective, appropriate rules and services are followed consistently, add more where appropriate, and increase outside oversight until the stats are much closer to inevitable rates.

    Ultimately this is not about whether the most powerful, advanced and effective military the world has ever known can do this. The issue is what attitudes, beliefs and practices are interfering with prevention and justice. We know there are difficulties in changing those. Which makes changing behavior all the more difficult, especially when humans are put on the defensive.

    This just surfaced. Air Force Brochure Tells Sexual Assault Victims to ‘Submit’ Spencer Ackerman, Danger Room.

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    by Ginny in CO on Tue May 07, 2013 at 12:37:22 PM PDT

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    •  One very good question worth pursuing: (0+ / 0-)

      This is not a military problem per se.

      It is a cultural problem. Civilian life is chock full of sexual predators -- and of prosecutors who refuse to prosecute and friends who think it's fun to put the video up on the internet.

      I don't know if the problem is worse in the military or not.
      Is it more hushed up because of the chain of command or more visible because the military is home to some pretty tough women?

      Do they handle it better or worse?
      Can civilians learn from the military or vice versa?

      What special problems about being military are being missed by the current procedures and safeguards?

      I do not believe that military people are worse than civilians.  If anything, I would expect the opposite.

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      by dinotrac on Tue May 07, 2013 at 01:35:06 PM PDT

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    •  About that Air Force bruchure: (0+ / 0-)

      " does not offer instruction to servicemembers on not committing sexual assault. Prevention is treated as the responsibility of potential victims."

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      by DSPS owl on Tue May 07, 2013 at 01:50:04 PM PDT

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    •  Are they? (0+ / 0-)

      I put out a list of question in another part of the thread.

      What are the comparisons between the military and civilian LE on:

      types of sexual assaults and contacts prosecuted
      percentage taken to trial v. percentage that don't go anywhere
      percentage that are reported v. not reported

      I know for example that a woman in the army who says she was drunk and had sex with someone while seriously drunk has a decent shot of that case going to trial, or at least being investigated.  I would be highly incredulous to see a similar case in the civilian world even be investigated unless she were a minor or she was completely passed out when the sex happened.

      That is not to say that all's hunky dory, it isn't.  But as someone noted down below, it's not hunky dory all over, not just in the military.  I don't know that the stats are significantly worse.  Why is there an increase in reporting? Is it because we are doing a better job of enticing/encouraging reporting so that more true numbers are coming out or is it that the reporting is the same but more incidents are occurring? Is this a one year blip or a trend?

      As far as the submit thing.  i don't know.  I'd personally be real careful in offering advice on what to do in a product like that because the real answer on what to do depends.  I don't know if resisting is a good idea or not a good idea.  I would guess it would be in some situations, and not in others.  I think the vast majority of rapes it would probably be advisable, but not sure.  I think though it's something that isn't easily presented, nor is it some symptom of how horrible the military is.  

      I think one reason why the military is being so scrutinzed is that we are the only entity that actually provides numbers in real detail.  What other cohort do we have anywhere near as reliable numbers? Cities? States? Colleges?

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