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  •  Don't go there... please! (2+ / 0-)
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    True North, Trevin

    You are asking for vengeance, not justice.

    First of all, the other 2 brothers have been released without charges.... aren't you glad you didn't already have your '5 minutes' along with them?

    So just let the system work it's imperfect magic so that justice can be achieved.

    The chance of the perpetrator of this series of crimes ever being released is quite remote.

    In fact, his life expectancy is probably linked to how long they keep him in protective confinement, and ends about when they put him in the general prison population.

    No need for blood-thirsty vengeance or revenge.... we're more civilized than that, aren't we?


    Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain. Friedrich Schiller

    by databob on Wed May 08, 2013 at 08:01:33 PM PDT

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    •  Gee, thanks for mansplaining away my anger. (3+ / 0-)
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      evilstorm, Batya the Toon, Penny GC

      Thanks for using the patronizing "we" that's normally used to talk down to children and to hysterical, brainless females.

      Thanks for scolding me about how wrong it is for me to be full of rage at a justice system that treats rape as a crime that's slightly more important than jaywalking. (Steubenville ring a bell with you? And I was fucking relieved that those shits got a whole YEAR in jail for that one.)

      Thanks for patting yourself on the back for Being A Bigger Person about all this and for Not Wanting Vengeance 'Cause That's Wrong.

      And I still have the feeling that these guys will spend less time in prison than the women whose childhoods they've murdered.

      Thank God, the Bob Fosse Kid is here! - Colin Mochrie

      by gardnerhill on Wed May 08, 2013 at 08:15:53 PM PDT

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      •  I apologize if I offended you. (5+ / 0-)

        I had no intention of 'talking down' to you, and my use of 'we' was using the collective, as a (perhaps not as gentle as I intended) reminder that 'we' liberals don't tend to believe in vengeance as much as justice.

        I feel a lot of anger about this, but I don't feel the solution is 'rusty spoon' vengeance. As a committed opponent of the death penalty (for every reason), your comment bothered me.

        Aw, hell, I could write more, but I'll leave it with an apology. I had no intention of offending you, and if I did, I retract my entire statement.


        Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain. Friedrich Schiller

        by databob on Wed May 08, 2013 at 08:40:08 PM PDT

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