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  •  otherwise your comment is spot-on. n/t (0+ / 0-)

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    by corvo on Wed May 08, 2013 at 06:15:52 AM PDT

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    •  Not Obama's plan, but that of the Repubs/neocons (1+ / 0-)
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      Look at it this way: if Mitt Romney had won the election, we'd already be at war in Syria. Heck, if Hillary Clinton were president, we'd already be at war there. Obama's mandate is to END American involvement in Middle Eastern wars, not start new ones. If his administration does lurch toward intervention, he's more foolish than I ever thought.

      So far he's resisted. Resisted HRC, Petraeus, Netanyahu, & all the armchair interventionists in the media & Congress. Two days ago, after Israel launched rocket attacks on Damascus, as the pundits & "experts" on cable news were all but declaring American intervention inevitable, I was getting nervous, but more recent news reports, especially of the recent meeting between Sec. of State Kerry & Russian Foreign Min. Lavrov, seem to suggest that they're backpedaling & playing for time, at least for now.

      Obama appears to understand that entering the war in Syria would . . .
      - be an open-ended commitment & likely ensnare us deeper
      - insert us into what is now a nasty sectarian fight-to-the-death
      - just be more gasoline on the flames of a war that is dangerously close to erupting into a region-wide conflict
      - effectively end cooperative relations with Russia, on the Iran file & other issues as well
      - effectively foreclose any settlement with Iran on the nuclear file, setting us inexorably on the path to war with Iran
      - be enormously expensive
      - empower his political opponents
      - be unpopular politically.

      If there's an upside for Obama & the Democrats, it's completely lost on me.

      •  Sorry, but it's everyone's plan. (0+ / 0-)

        The only differences are of degree/speed, not of kind.

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Wed May 08, 2013 at 12:40:30 PM PDT

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        •  I won't accuse the president of bad faith yet. (0+ / 0-)

          Whatever my disappointments with Obama, & there are many, I'm still inclined to believe that he is acting in good faith to avoid another Middle Eastern war. My fear is not that he really, secretly wants it or supports the neocon worldview, but rather that political gravity (e.g., AIPAC, the neocons @ AEI, the neolibs @ Brookings, the NYT & WaPo, influential senators in both parties) may suck us in anyway. So far at least, the president does appear to be trying to avoid this trap.

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