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  •  You're playing games. (2+ / 0-)
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    S F Hippie, Eric K

    Adding numbers where you want, subtracting where you want and nitpicking on any semantic that you can.

    I know the game.  People can read the report and decide for themselves.  You didn't link to it.  Instead you linked to an article that spun it.

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Tue May 07, 2013 at 08:04:09 PM PDT

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    •  I am not playing any games (5+ / 0-)

      I am looking at FIREARM HOMICIDES on TABLE 1.

      2008 383,500 12,179
      2009 421,600 11,493
      2010 426,100 11,078
      2011 478,400 11,101

      I got this from your damn link. After including your damn link in my damn diary. Stop the BS accusations and learn the arithmetic.

      •  Fine. Here's your math. (1+ / 0-)
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        08-09  11,493/12179 =  -.94 %
        09-10  11,078/11493 =  -.96%
        10-11 11,101/11078 = + 1.%

        By my math, that adds up to a net decrease in the murder rate by  -..9%  Which is LESS than 1% which is exactly what I said.

        Now, can you do math, or are you being deliberately obtuse?

        I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

        by detroitmechworks on Tue May 07, 2013 at 08:14:07 PM PDT

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        •  it works like this (6+ / 0-)

          from 2009 to 2011: (11493-11101)/11493=0.034 or 3.4% decrease from 1st year of Obama's presidency to 3rd.

          or 2008 to 2011: (12197-11101)/12197=0.089% or 8.9% if you count from he was elected.

          You just need to get the percent calculations and understanding of it down :)

          Even from your calculations it's not -.96 - it's actually 4% difference because a percent is .01

        •  Math help... (5+ / 0-)

          11,493/12,179 = 0.944 = 94.4%. That means a 5.6% decrease. The other way to do that is 12,179-11,493 = 686. 686/12179 x100% = 5.6% decrease. That's 2008-2009.
               The numbers for 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 are a 3.6% decrease and a 0.2% increase, respectively. Try harder before lecturing people, please.
               Easy estimate: 1% of 12,000 is 120. Since the difference is over 600, it's over 5%.

          -7.25, -6.26

          We are men of action; lies do not become us.

          by ER Doc on Tue May 07, 2013 at 10:55:23 PM PDT

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