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  •  Given fiat to collect the data FOR the government (5+ / 0-)

    Sure makes me wonder what these corporate entities are going to do with all the data.

    This BS has got to stop.

    This is more the act of a government afraid of its constituency, than of one of National Security.

    Too bad Washington can't "grow a pair of [insert appropriate gonad here]" (I miss Pelosi as The Most Effective Speaker in Our History, and cry when I think she was replace by the Least Effective...ever)

    Since we use National Security to cloak the lies and shortcomings of our government (why it was created in the first place), why should we expect them not to give themselves greater power in the thought control department?

    Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Kurt Vonnegut

    by ToKnowWhy on Wed May 08, 2013 at 07:18:28 AM PDT

    •  It was Pelosi who brought FISA fiasco '08... (4+ / 0-)

      ... back to life AFTER it had been voted down by both houses of Congress.  That was the very same bill Obama said he would not vote "for" if it had telecom immunity intact.

      I watched the proceedings in both the House and the Senate with horror.

      She took it out of its ignominious grave early one Friday morning, limited "debate" to one hour, the House passed it before/by noon, and someone from the House hand-carried the bill to the Senate that day.  The only reason the Senate did not vote on it that same Friday afternoon is that most of them were out campaigning [this was the summer before the '08 election] and already out of town.

      The following Mon. or Tue. there was a funeral for one of the senators who had just died and the senators all went to that, so the Senate didn't get to it until Wed.  Kos himself was so steamed about Obama's unwise FISA vote he withheld a large donation to Obama's campaign fund (I don't remember if kos relented and still gave Obama's campaign the money or not).  

      Three days after the wrong-headed Senate vote, Obama told one of the reichwingnuttia Xian groups that he'd not only retain Dumbya's 'office of faith-based initiatives,' but he'd increase funding for it, too.

      Fancy that: a con law prof violating the US Constitution twice in one week: once by voting for FISA fiasco '08 with telecom immunity intact, a clear violation of the 4th Amendment, and a second time by saying he'd keep the 'office of faith-based initiatives' which is a direct violation of the 1st Amendment's separation of church and state.

      Now Obama and his pretzel-logic lawyers want to solidify and make "normal" a permanent violation of our right to privacy - a clear continuation of Dumbya's dunderheaded unconstitutional and illegal policies.

      I'm SO underwhelmed.

      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Wed May 08, 2013 at 08:31:59 AM PDT

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