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  •  But why was the lab unlocked in the morning (1+ / 0-)
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    I cannot imagine leaving a working lab, unlocked in a school, with no adult present, where kids can come and go, and use said lab.

    I am not sure I buy she was making a bomb exactly. She wanted to see what would happen. It could be that even in smaller proportions the chemical reaction was more than she bargained for, and was bigger than she intended.

    •  She wasn't in a lab. (3+ / 0-)
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      It's been pointed out in the comments, since the diarist makes a point of NOT telling us this essential fact.

      It was also pointed out in his last diary about the same subject.

      She brought the components for the drano bomb t the school, assembled them, and set it off, on school property, at 7am.  

      This wasn't done in a science class, or in a science classroom.  It wasn't part of any sort of assignment, there was no teacher involved, in any way.  

      Just the drano bomb and the instructions from the ten thousand youtube video's showing dumb teens trying to blow their faces off.

      If the diarist was a bit more honest about actually informing people, no one would have to be mistaken about the actual facts of this case.

      The original "to be tried as an adult" by the local prosecuting atty. looks to be, as I suspected in the original diary's comments, to be going by the wayside and she's likely to get, as I suspected in the original diary's comments, some community service and that's about it.

      But the diarist apparently wants to stir everyone up again with another diary on the same subject without any real new info other than the prosecution is being reduced dramatically.

      But somehow that doesn't seem to be the gist of this diary...

      Who the hell wants to be part of a political movement that has as its most obvious feature politically correct prune lipped moral scolds and incessant guilt trips about how much we all suck?

      by Rick Aucoin on Fri May 10, 2013 at 08:21:41 PM PDT

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      •  Odd, & sad, that few seem to care about the facts (1+ / 0-)
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        Particularly the diarist.  But that might ruin the "Doing science while black" narrative.  You'd think that all these folks who are so worked up about the importance of science might recognize that science is fundamentally based on facts, not selective observations that only serve to reify a certain socio-political viewpoint.

        Or maybe they just prefer getting indignant to getting the facts straight.

        •  Confirmation bias. (1+ / 0-)
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          I learned a long time ago, and relearned the lesson again with the advent of the internet and social media, that any story that just perfectly fits my own biases needs to be looked at and evaluated with 10x the skepticism and credulity.

          This story is an excellent example of confirmation bias on the left.   The right has their own blind spots, I'd say more of them, but, that might be my own bias talking.  

          Who the hell wants to be part of a political movement that has as its most obvious feature politically correct prune lipped moral scolds and incessant guilt trips about how much we all suck?

          by Rick Aucoin on Sat May 11, 2013 at 01:21:27 AM PDT

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      •  Why are you getting onto me about this? (1+ / 0-)
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        Tonedevil

        If the facts are wrong in this diary, then write your own diary on it.

        Make a complaint to the diarist, what have you.

        •  Because you said she was in a lab. (1+ / 0-)
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          She wasn't.

          And you'd know that, if the diarist had written a more honest accounting of what happened.

          But that would interfere with his Great Sense Of Outrage.

          Who the hell wants to be part of a political movement that has as its most obvious feature politically correct prune lipped moral scolds and incessant guilt trips about how much we all suck?

          by Rick Aucoin on Sat May 11, 2013 at 07:02:14 AM PDT

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          •  Oh goodness (1+ / 0-)
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            Show me, that she directly intended to kill and maim students and staff, or that she is a firebug.

            Otherwise this seems disproportionate.

            •  What seems disproportionate? (0+ / 0-)

              I don't believe anyone has reported that she intended to cause anyone injury.

              The diarist hasn't given much information at all on the case, just many many paragraphs of Great Sense Of Outrage, backed up by completely unproven assertions of racism.

              Are you saying that it's disproportionate to expel students who set of explosives on school grounds?  The drano bomb is a pretty mild explosive, as these things go.  Certainly a huge step up from the M-80 firecrackers that got me and my friends in so much trouble when we were in school, but also nowhere near the sort of explosive that would cause property damage.

              Certainly they can cause injury, though it seems in this case she avoided blowing her face off, thankfully.

              But you think it's inappropriate to expel students who bring ingredients to school to assemble an explosive and set it off on school grounds?  Without it being a part of any sort of science class, supervised by any teacher, assigned by any teacher, it had absolutely nothing to do with any class or project the school assigned?

              I don't think it's inappropriate for students who get caught doing such things to be expelled.  Setting off even mild explosives at school absolutely is the sort of thing a person should expect to be expelled for.

              Who the hell wants to be part of a political movement that has as its most obvious feature politically correct prune lipped moral scolds and incessant guilt trips about how much we all suck?

              by Rick Aucoin on Sat May 11, 2013 at 10:07:21 AM PDT

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              •  I don't agree with expulsion, but facts matter (1+ / 0-)
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                though the diarist, and now apparently GreenMother, and others, find that immaterial.  Why is it so hard to agree that the case should be assessed on the basis of facts?  In my view, a rational assessment of the facts would lead to the conclusion that it was a gross over-reaction to have her arrested.  A few days suspension seems about right.  But there is no need to twist things to make her case into something it isn't.  The facts should stand on their own.  

                •  There's legitimate room to disagree there. (1+ / 0-)
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                  The degree of punishment a student should get for assembling and setting off a minor chemical/mechanical explosive like a drano bomb at school is certainly a point people can, and should, debate.

                  But the two diaries that this guy has written on the subject, focusing on his unproven allegation of racism and deliberately shading the events as a "science experiment" to the point where readers regularly come to believe this happened in a lab... well, there's just an agenda at play there.  That, and Righteous Indignation Primal Scream Therapy.

                  Who the hell wants to be part of a political movement that has as its most obvious feature politically correct prune lipped moral scolds and incessant guilt trips about how much we all suck?

                  by Rick Aucoin on Sat May 11, 2013 at 06:07:54 PM PDT

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