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  •  Crusades. Inquisition. Genocide of "pagans" (4+ / 0-)
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    chuckvw, poco, lyvwyr101, JDsg the Americas, American slavery justified by Blacks being "the cursed sons of Ham." Invading Iraq because "our God is bigger." Apartheid in Gaza and gross mistreatment of Palestinian people. Sure Islam is the worst.

    Give me a break. Whenever you invade, occupy and humiliate a people, you wipe out their moderates, and pave the way for their crazy motherfuckers rise to power. It's why the fascist anti-immigrant elements are rising in Greece. When people are poor, mistreated and terrified, they'll run with whoever promises to get rid of the oppression or make people safer.

    If drug paramilitaries (or whatever force with sufficient expendable manpower and technology) decided to invade our shores or borders, and our military was split or disabled, you can bet a lot of people would be standing behind the fundie Tea Party freaks with the most ammo.

    People always go with what they think will make them secure, if they're scared enough.

    If you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people. --Tony Benn

    by rhetoricus on Sat May 11, 2013 at 01:29:27 PM PDT

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    •  Mankind's history is filled with this dynamic. (1+ / 0-)
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      by lyvwyr101 on Sat May 11, 2013 at 03:36:03 PM PDT

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    •  Um, no. (1+ / 0-)
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      Our invasion of Iraq was many horrible things, but it was NOT a fundamentalist religious crusade.

      The rest of the examples are ancient, and that's part of the problem. Islam only compares with ancient religions, when patriarchal misogyny to that degree was more commonplace.

      From here on out, no one can escape the havoc wrought by the unmitigated Class, Climate and Terror Wars.

      by Words In Action on Sat May 11, 2013 at 10:06:49 PM PDT

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      •  You missed the point ENTIRELY. (0+ / 0-)

        Yes, fundamentalist religious abuses abound in our military. Of course they freaking do.

        But the point is that religious wackjobs are in all of the desert religions. What brings them to POWER is invading, occupying, abusing and interfering with their regular people.

        It was only when we overthrew the duly elected government of Iran and installed a monster called the Shaw did the Ayatollas rise to power. It was US who armed the crazy-ass mujahedeen in Afghanistan to push back against the Soviets, which paved the way for the rule of the Taliban.

        Whenever you abuse a people, they stand behind their strongest fighters, even if those fighters are insane. Empire strengthens extremism. Has always been.

        If you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people. --Tony Benn

        by rhetoricus on Sun May 12, 2013 at 01:58:23 PM PDT

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      •  Also? Ask any Native American alive (0+ / 0-)

        ..if Christian religious abuse (especially sexual abuse by whites against Native Americans in Catholic schools) and physical and cultural genocide are "ancient history."

        Jesus freaking Christ.

        If you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people. --Tony Benn

        by rhetoricus on Sun May 12, 2013 at 02:01:13 PM PDT

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