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View Diary: Bill Maher Schooled By His Own Guest For His Ignorant Statements on Muslim Violence & Islam (VIDEO) (123 comments)

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  •  That's one thought experiment (0+ / 0-)

    It doesn't seem to have any bearing on the topic at hand though.

    •  It's not a thought experiment at all (0+ / 0-)

      Out in the wilds, ecumenical groups rely on putting aside another person's core beliefs. Even if you think they are wrong or silly or thundering in order to to accomplish things for the good of the community. But there are other forces out there who use your religion as a weapon against others. You're probably going to hell in their view. And you start with their certainty that you are wrong.

      They assume they are right and sometimes even solid, widely accepted evidence will not change their view. Because faith is belief without evidence. It's unique compared to testable kinds of beliefs which build trust instead. Don't we want governments run using real facts of a real world? I don't want people who blithely reject strong evidence at the levers of power of ANY government.

      Faith based beliefs must at some level reject evidence and refuse to take some facts into account. That is the very nature of the assumption. And sometimes they can be facts of significant importance that are overlooked by the person in favor of their own personal comfort.

      •  And ecumenicals don't go bursting bubbles. (0+ / 0-)

        It's impolite at best. They have numbers that could easily speak for most of their major religions to tell their extremists to sit down. And politically keep them from legislating their special beliefs. But everyone is right when all you have to work with is interpretation. It's not even pass/fail.

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