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  •  I'm not sure on what is or isn't. (2+ / 0-)
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    Susan from 29, Troubadour

    I certainly don't like most of what's classified as classic science fiction, though. Heinlein pisses me off, and I don't get into Asimov.

    •  Heinlein is indeed annoying. (3+ / 0-)
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      allergywoman, Aunt Pat, Oh Mary Oh

      But you need to have a taste for the grand, sweeping overview of history to appreciate Asimov.  Ditto Herbert, but on a more profound level.  

      Today's trivia becomes tomorrow's sacrament.

      by Troubadour on Sun May 12, 2013 at 02:18:28 PM PDT

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      •  IMO you need to find watching metal rust (0+ / 0-)

        or watching paint dry fascinating to appreciate Herbert, but as I said, the only person who agrees with me so far is my dad. :) I must have been born without the Herbert appreciation gene.

        •  I have no idea where you're getting that. (4+ / 0-)

          Listen to this stuff from the Dune series' Wikiquote page:

             Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
                  Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam
          The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience.

              Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam to Paul Atreides

          Muad'Dib learned rapidly because his first training was in how to learn. And the first lesson of all was the basic trust that he could learn. It's shocking to find how many people do not believe they can learn, and how many more believe learning to be difficult. Muad'Dib knew that every experience carries its lesson.
          The whole damn series is like that - full of bizarre insights.  Sheer awesomeness.

          Today's trivia becomes tomorrow's sacrament.

          by Troubadour on Sun May 12, 2013 at 02:35:05 PM PDT

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        •  I've never been able to get (3+ / 0-)
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          Wee Mama, Troubadour, Oh Mary Oh

          into Herbert either -- OTOH, I enjoy Heinlein when I read it in the spirit of the era it was written (still very patriarchal -- I think he tried for stronger female characters in some of his later works like Friday). And I can appreciate the Bible as well when I read it in the spirit of the era in which it was written (or orally transmitted) and recognize that much of it is from the viewpoint of people who had no knowledge of modern science or medicine while holding on to the core tenets.

          There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

          by Cali Scribe on Sun May 12, 2013 at 04:25:38 PM PDT

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    •  Gee, I liked them all (3+ / 0-)
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      Troubadour, Wee Mama, Aunt Pat

      They are just different flavors to me.

      If you can look at them as reflections of the times, showing different ways to go with what was at the time, much of those folks were ahead of their time.

      Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

      by splashy on Sun May 12, 2013 at 02:57:38 PM PDT

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