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  •  Originally, I thought Obama would (7+ / 0-)

    survive the 'IRS scandal' with ease, but the latest Huffington Post article re: the who-knew-what-and-when reminds me of the onset of the Watergate investigation...

    ...if that story leads to something more ominous, and if  the AP story is pursued with dogged determination, Obama's second term could be as stormy as Nixon's.

    Mike Lux made an interesting observation several days ago -- after these two stories broke: Obama is going to need his base fired up and united in his defense, but that's not going to happen if he pushes through the Chained CPI...and I would add he's going to lose support and create a shit-storm if he approves the Keystone XL pipeline, so he could be in trouble early on if he doesn't change direction on those two issues.

    Add in the problems caused by his involvement in the sequestration and how he has helped restore funding to the military and funding for the furloughed air traffic controllers while offering no defense for social safety net programs, the new revelation that the government, under his direction, has made $50 billion off student loans, the possible collapse of ACA, and the continuing expansion of the income gap, he could be in real trouble soon...and so could the Democratic Party.

    •  Ok, I must be missing something here... (4+ / 0-)

      I'm not dismissing your concerns; I share some of them as far as the president's political agenda henceforth. But where's the wrongdoing on the part of the White House? They learned of the investigation in June of 2012, per the HuffPo article:

      At one point in the day's hearing, Treasury IG George said he had told the department's general counsel about his investigation on June 4, 2012, and Deputy Treasury Secretary Neal Wolin "shortly thereafter." But, George cautioned, those discussions were "not to inform them of the results of the audit. It was to inform them of the fact that we were conducting the audit."
      But didn't learn of the results until March of this year, again, per the article:
      The Treasury Department issued a statement Friday saying officials first became aware of the actual results of the investigation in March of this year, when they were provided a draft of George's report, a standard practice.
      The White House had no reason to publicize the fact that they were informed about the investigation, as far as I can tell.

      At this point, I don't see any legal culpability on the part of the White House.

      I do share your concerns about the agenda though. But I'm not worried about Obama going down for this -- or any of the other so-called 'scandals' -- winding through D.C. right now.

      "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone" - John Maynard Keynes

      by markthshark on Sat May 18, 2013 at 03:43:13 AM PDT

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      •  Well, I think you misinterpreted this: (0+ / 0-)
        ...if that story leads to something more ominous, and if the AP story is pursued with dogged determination,
        I remember very vividly how Watergate began...in the beginning it seemed rather innocuous -- just like these stories, but there was too much corruption lying beneath the surface for it to disappear, and eventually the truth was revealed a drop at a time...

        The Republicans are too corrupt to pass up any opportunity to shut down the Democratic agenda...and since almost everything you touch in D.C. has an element of corruption beneath the surface, a lot will depend on the type of threads they weave together to make their case...

        Time will tell.

        •  I don't think I misinterpreted at all... (0+ / 0-)

          I just don't see the underlying corruption in the Obama administration.

          They're guilty of a lot of things: giving in to the Republicans; fighting for Wall Street more often than Main Street; seemingly ignoring pressing concerns like climate change, and others. But inter-administration corruption or law breaking?

          I just don't see it.

          Remember, if the system is rigged, there's no need to break the law.

          "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone" - John Maynard Keynes

          by markthshark on Sun May 19, 2013 at 12:38:33 AM PDT

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