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  •  actually they did reveal it (4+ / 0-)

    because there was no other plausible source.

    self-appointed intellectual cop

    by citizen k on Sat May 18, 2013 at 08:56:29 AM PDT

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    •  Nonsense. (4+ / 0-)

      No plot has ever been foiled without an inside man?  Simply not true.

      And nothing revealed in the AP article implied the existence of an inside man.  In fact, all indications are that they didn't know that detail.  That bit came out the next day when John Brennan had a phone conference with reporters and told them that the plot had never been a threat to the American people because we had "inside control."

      “What’s the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?” - Sherwood Rowland

      by jrooth on Sat May 18, 2013 at 09:00:50 AM PDT

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      •  here (2+ / 0-)
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        self-appointed intellectual cop

        by citizen k on Sat May 18, 2013 at 09:11:24 AM PDT

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        •  What am I supposed to glean from that? (0+ / 0-)

          that's an analysis that conflates all the reporting for the whole month - not just what AP revealed.  Here is the original AP article.  I defy you to find any indication of an inside man based on what is written there.  Again, the information about the inside man came from John Brennan on the day after AP published.

          Furthermore, much of that analysis is nonsense.  How was this agent supposed to continue operating inside AQAP when he was being sent on a suicide mission?  Are we to believe that AQAP wouldn't notice that he didn't go blow up a plane and would just keep feeding him new information to pass on to the Saudis?  Really?

          “What’s the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?” - Sherwood Rowland

          by jrooth on Sat May 18, 2013 at 09:20:02 AM PDT

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          •  fyi (1+ / 0-)
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            The problem with the leak was multifold. In addition to compromising the Saudi investigation from which the U.S. had received valuable intelligence leading to its obtaining the device and carrying out a drone strike that killed a person on its most wanted list, the message the leak sent to the Saudis and UK was that the U.S. can’t keep a secret.

            self-appointed intellectual cop

            by citizen k on Sat May 18, 2013 at 09:26:59 AM PDT

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            •  That's it? That's the whole beef? (1+ / 0-)
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              The Brits and Saudis might not trust us to keep a secret?  Sorry, but that's not an adequate reason to trash the first and fourth amendments.

              And why do you keep ignoring the point about John Brennan?  To me that's just a giant bright-red-flashing incongruity.  Why is the guy head of the CIA today if this whole thing was so damaging?  And wouldn't the fact that we put such a loose-lipped schmuck in charge of our second-biggest intelligence agency be a bigger concern to the Brits and Saudis if they're so worried about our ability to keep a secret?

              “What’s the use of having developed a science well enough to make predictions if, in the end, all we’re willing to do is stand around and wait for them to come true?” - Sherwood Rowland

              by jrooth on Sat May 18, 2013 at 09:35:14 AM PDT

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            •  How do we know that the source (0+ / 0-)

              wasn't a Brit or a Saudi?

              I saw that talkleft post and that was my first question.

              That conclusion assumed that the source was American and since the whole reason that this issue has come to be a big story is that the DOJ is still looking for the source, it is ridiculous to draw any conclusions like that one.

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