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  •  Times have changed (11+ / 0-)

    I can't really speak to changes in the views of a group I don't belong to. (And I know how annoying it is when I read what right-wing people claim to know what I believe.)

    Since the 1950s, there actually has been a lot of research on the effects of fluoride--not just on teeth, which seems to be the only body part of any interest to some advocates--but on the entire rest of the body. The fluoride doesn't go with laser-like precision to teeth, skipping bones, kidneys, pineal gland, and all the rest of the body's many parts. So why would we continue to put this stuff in the water supply?

    Some of the interests affected by decisions about fluoridation:

    The fluoride put into municipal water supplies is not some fancy-dancy medical grade fluoride. It is industrial waste.

    This is industrial waste that the unfortunate owners of the waste are not allowed to dump into rivers or lakes under federal environmental law, or into oceans, under international law.

    Getting rid of it is extremely costly.

    So imagine how delightful it is if municipalities take it off your hands--paying you for it, paying to ship it--so you don't have to come up with a way to legally dispose of it.

    The municipalities buy your waste and put it into the water supply.

    Corporations benefit; governments pay for it.

    Sounds pretty consistent with a lot of conservative ideas to me.

    •  And of course who knows what else is in (7+ / 0-)

      that flouride since it is low grade industrial waste.  Has anyone bothered to test it to make sure it doesn't have anything else really nasty in it?

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Sat May 18, 2013 at 02:27:35 PM PDT

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    •  It's not industrial waste (0+ / 0-)

      It's a byproduct of phosphate ore processing.  Many useful products are byproducts of processing another material.

      Before you start throwing around inaccurate information about whether something is "industrial waste," perhaps you should educate yourself about what the definition of solid waste is.  

      •  Perfectly harmless (0+ / 0-)
        Potential Acute Health Effects:
        Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of eye contact (irritant, corrosive), of ingestion, of inhalation. Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (corrosive). Severe over-exposure can result in death.
        Potential Chronic Health Effects:
        CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: A4 (Not classifiable for human or animal.) by ACGIH, 3 (Not classifiable for human.) by IARC. MUTAGENIC EFFECTS: Mutagenic for mammalian somatic cells. Mutagenic for bacteria and/or yeast. TERATOGENIC EFFECTS: Not available. DEVELOPMENTAL TOXICITY: Not available. The substance may be toxic to kidneys, lungs,
        the nervous system, heart, gastrointestinal tract, cardiovascular system, bones, teeth. Repeated or prolonged exposure
        to the substance can produce target organs damage. Repeated exposure to a highly toxic material may produce general deterioration of health by an accumulation in one or many human organs.
        •  Please (0+ / 0-)

          humor me by pointing to where I stated fluoride exposure, especially at the high concentrations associated with the effects you've pulled from an MSDS, is "perfectly harmless."

          One of your characteristics appears to be insinuating that people write something other than what they've actually written.  It's not a positive characteristic and it reflects poorly on your character.

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